From: John V. Knapp [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Subject: Re: vaginal spiders
Hi folks --
I am, in this year of 2005, quite amazed at this thread. As even Sigmund
once said, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, and a spider is just an
On Fri, 18 Feb 2005, Murray Schwartz wrote:
> From: J. R. Raper [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Subject: Re: FW: FW: vaginal spiders
> That was my sense too, that the visual associations would
> explain the vagina
> symbolism. Do not many spiders suggest the gorgon heads,
> including Medusa's
> head, which, as I recall, are tried and true vagina symbols,
> at least for
> lit crits?
> They combine hideousness with their beauty in death, have the
> power to turn
> people who gaze upon them to stone, and, through their teeth,
> represent the
> much feared vagina dentata.
> Hey, the latter are not my wild theories but come out of the
> Oxf. Companion
> to Classical Lit.
> Probably there are some attractive spiders too, but . . .
> I'll leave it at that.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Murray Schwartz" <[log in to unmask]>
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> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 12:00 PM
> Subject: FW: FW: vaginal spiders
> > From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > Subject: Re: FW: vaginal spiders
> > Another take:
> > Psycholinguistics are important, but our first level of
> unconscious structure derives from sensory input. The symbolism of the
> spider might start with the round center plus appendages that reach out.
> Black=darkness, too. There is the further aspect of entrapment in its web.
> Mother=woman=vagina, no?
> > Johanna Tabin
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