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Reposted to Stocnet discussion list as suggested.
On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 17:00:04 +0200
"T.A.B.SNIJDERS" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Dear Shan,
> Your query might be more appropriate for the Stocnet
> which is specialized in issues concerning the programs
> Stocnet, among which Siena. See
> But let me try to answer it here, as far as I can.
> 1. I do not understand your problem in running Siena and
>have not heard
> of such problems earlier. The van de Bunt data supplied
>with Siena, for
> example, have 7 waves, and these can be used in Siena
> problem. When you follow exactly the steps in the
> (assuming that you run Siena from within Stocnet) and
>the Siena manual,
> it should work.
> 2. Investigating groups of 6 actors with 10 attributes
>strikes me as
> being a bit risky - too many variables for so few
> 3. Too analyze multiple groups you may need to use
> 4. What you write about structure still seems too vague.
>It may be a
> good idea to develop your thoughts further on this
> Best regards,
> Tom Snijders
> Shan Cook wrote:
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>> Subject: Waves in siena problem & Idea request
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>> Question 1 of 2)
>> I have been trying to run Siena but have encountered a
>> More than 3 waves causes in the program freezing/failing
>> to respond etc.
>> And no, this is not just that the program needs more
>> to process the data - it is an actual freeze that
>> a restart of the program.
>> I have tried:
>> using the supplied data.
>> using no attributes (actor waves only).
>> removing all model options (density etc) so that the
>> program has few functions to perform.
>> using a different PC.
>> uninstalling the program and reinstalling a new
>> The data I wish to analyse: 12 groups, mean 6 actors
>> in each group and mean 6 waves for each group, 10
>> My exploration: if a group achieve a structure by wave X
>> (density,centralisation, etc)
>> and they have attributes >=Y (motivation, social
>> familiarity, etc)
>> then their performance (group and individual) is more
>> likely to be >=Z
>> I lack the necessary knowledge in IT, mathematics and
>> to understand the problem.
>> Is it simply that STOcNET can only run 3 waves at any
>> If there is not 'fix' is is possible to run multiples of
>> with overlaps? i.e. waves 123, then 345, then 567?
>> Question 2 of 2)
>> I would appreciate thoughts on which 'structures' to
>> examine. I have found a few papers that touch upon
>> topics but if anyone has any ideas that they think would
>> be worth trying out but haven't had the time to try,
>> I would be more than happy to accomodate.
>> Thank you for your thoughts
>> Ms Shan Cook
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