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Keep in mind that it is possible to correct Wikipedia entries to correct misinformation like this. 

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On Jun 15, 2013, at 9:49 AM, "patrick doreian" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

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> hello,
>         i do not think jeff was claiming that social networks is just the science of the individual. it is concerned about both structural matters - structures and evolution etc - and their impacts on individual actions. of course, actor attributes affect networks structure and change. i have often harbored the fantasy of showing up at a physicist convention and asking them about interviewing their molecules. rightly, they would think i was insane. but i would bet they would miss the real point would be that indiviuals are not molecules.
> pat
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> On 6/15/2013 12:12 AM, Moses Boudourides wrote:
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>> Good question, Jeff. However, whenever in the past structuralists like
>> Bruce Mayhew were addressing exactly the same question to
>> individualists, some social networkers seemed to be at least
>> unconcerned (if not overtly averse). Why then should a physicist be
>> convinced to endorse the idea that social networks is just the science
>> of the individual? --Moses
>> 
>> On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 12:36 AM, Johnson, Jeffrey C <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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>>> But what have the physicists contributed to theoretical advancements in
>>> study of human behavior?  Besides the claim of physicists
>>> fathering/mothering the advent of SNA which is flawed st best, what have
>>> they done to advance any theoretical explanations of human behavior,
>>> particularly at the individual level? Just asking?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID
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>>> 
>>> Valdis Krebs <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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>>> Ha!
>>> 
>>> Yes, lot of bad info out there... even in Wikipedia, and in those big data
>>> sets!
>>> 
>>> At least they are not calling it "social networkING analysis" yet!
>>> 
>>> ;-)
>>> 
>>> Valdis
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jun 14, 2013, at 4:20 PM, John T. Maloney wrote:
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>>> Hi - Good to know.
>>> 
>>> Remember, too, Facebook invented the social graph.
>>> 
>>> Social graph "...was popularized at the Facebook f8 conference on May 24,
>>> 2007, when it was used to explain that the Facebook Platform, which was
>>> introduced at the same time, would benefit from the social graph by taking
>>> advantage of the relationships between individuals." -Wikipedia
>>> 
>>> Gee-whiz! I didn't know that.
>>> 
>>> Of course you should all know --
>>> 
>>> "One of the earliest known forms of the social graph was created in 2002 by
>>> Harvard student Philippe Bouzaglou in a paper published on the Harvard
>>> Department of Economics website." -Wikipedia
>>> 
>>> 
>>> G-o-l-l-y, Sur-prise, sur-prise, sur-prise! It’s fun learning something new
>>> every day.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Let’s be sure to give credit where credit is due. These deserve the double
>>> WTF-WTF.
>>> 
>>> -j
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>>> "*** network science blossomed in the 1990s thanks to the confluence of
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