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PSYART  January 2000, Week 4

PSYART January 2000, Week 4

Subject:

Re: Klein: Mrs., Ms. or Klein

From:

Norman Holland <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Institute for Psychological Study of the Arts <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Fri, 28 Jan 2000 09:46:44 -0500

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From:
        Robert Maxwell Young <[log in to unmask]>

3:23 AM



I have not followed all of this thread, but I can say something about
the convention among Kleinians as I have experienced it while living
in London. Using Mrs. is a token of respect and part of the
conventions of the Klein group. I have heard it often used re:
senior, respected Kleinians, e.g., Mrs O'Shaughnessey, Mrs. Spillius,
though (as I recall) the Betty Joseph is plain Betty Joseph. When I
hear it these days I experience it as a deferential affectation used
especially by prissy sycophants. I do not think the other Brit Psa
Soc groups do it, though I think they did say Miss Freud.

Best, Bob Young
>From:
>         Kay Torney Souter <[log in to unmask]>
>
>Wed 3:02 PM
>
>  >         [log in to unmask]
>  >
>  > Tue 6:27 PM
>  >
>  > In a message dated 1/25/00 3:22:43 PM Pacific Standard Time,
>[log in to unmask]
>  > writes:
>  >
>  > << (Note:  calling someone Mrs. instead of a first name, seems so
>respectful.
>  >  Or is it not?)
>Lots of people will say this-- butfor what it's worth--
>
>Using a title for  a woman where you don't for a man is absurd, and
>smacks of the sneaky reappearance of that belittling pedestal that we
>used to put the little woman on when we didn't want to take her
>seriously. If we don't still speak of Dr Winnicott and Mr Strachey, we
>shouldn't be speaking of their contemporaries as Mrs Klein and Miss
>Freud.
>
>
>
>Kay
>  >
>  > I'm wondering how calling someone 'Mrs.' could ever be considered
>  > disrespectful.
>  >
>  > Patricia Molinar
>
>--
> ࡱ 

Robert Maxwell Young, Professor of Psychotherapy & Psychoanalytic Studies,
Centre for Psychotherapeutic Studies, University of Sheffield,
16 Claremont Cresc., Sheffield S10 2TA. http://www.shef.ac.uk/~psysc/
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New Bulgarian University, Sofia. http://www.nbu.bg/bihr/psy.htm
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