LISTSERV mailing list manager LISTSERV 16.0

Help for RECMGMT-L Archives


RECMGMT-L Archives

RECMGMT-L Archives


RECMGMT-L@LISTS.UFL.EDU


View:

Message:

[

First

|

Previous

|

Next

|

Last

]

By Topic:

[

First

|

Previous

|

Next

|

Last

]

By Author:

[

First

|

Previous

|

Next

|

Last

]

Font:

Proportional Font

LISTSERV Archives

LISTSERV Archives

RECMGMT-L Home

RECMGMT-L Home

RECMGMT-L  May 2000

RECMGMT-L May 2000

Subject:

Re: CRM debate

From:

Liz Castro <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Records Management Program <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Wed, 31 May 2000 09:49:13 -0400

Content-Type:

text/plain

Parts/Attachments:

Parts/Attachments

text/plain (155 lines)

Get on the ARMA website.  www.arma.org, and you can acquire the information you need.
Liz


Elizabeth Castro,CRM, MIT, MBA
Electronic Records Manager,
Records Administration, I.S.
[log in to unmask]
Contact# 631-738-4615
Fax # 631-738-4740
Cell # 516- 381-2654


>>> [log in to unmask] 05/31/00 08:45AM >>>
Is there information out about this year's ARMA conference now and if so
could I get it forwarded to me.
Thanks,

Robert C. Birchell
Manager, Management Services
[log in to unmask]
OPS 1D-SQN
423-843-8285
423-843-7635 (fax)
Pager 1-800-323-4853-pin 10387


> ----------
> From:         Sanderson, Glen[SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent:         Wednesday, May 31, 2000 8:24 AM
> To:   [log in to unmask]
> Subject:      Re: CRM debate
>
> Maybe this would be a good topic to have during the ARMA conference this
> year.  We could have a roundtable discussion (maybe at the Excalibur
> hotel)
> or hash this out (maybe at the Circus Circus buffet).
>
> Glen Sanderson
> Records and Retention Manager
> Koch Industries, Inc.
> 316/828-4682
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Kurilecz, Peter [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> > Sent: Tuesday,May 30,2000 2:24 PM
> > To:   [log in to unmask]
> > Subject:      Re: CRM debate
> >
> > Bob wrote:
> > <snip.
> > My point is that it is the individual's decision, and CRMs should
> respect
> > non-CRMs decisions to spend their time training in new areas, rather
> that
> > spending time confirming for others what they already know (and is
> > indicated
> > in their resumes).
> > <snip>
> >
> > I must have missed something, but I  don't remember reading anything
> that
> > said that CRMs do not respect those who have decided not to take the
> exam.
> > As you stated it is a personal decision whether to sit for the exams or
> > not.
> >
> >
> > Richard Cox of the University of Pittsburgh's School of Information
> > Sciences
> > wrote a very interesting article concerning archival certification.
> > Although
> > not completely related to this annual (or is it bi-annual?)discussion
> some
> > of its points, I believe, are relevant to our discourse.
> > http://www.sis.pitt.edu/~rjc/pp1.htm
> >
> >
> > What I do keep "hearing" over and over again is that it is a personal
> > decision. "To take or not to take, that is the question." Each of us
> must
> > make that decision at some point in our careers and there is no
> incorrect
> > answer.
> >
> > Kerrie Monzo's original query (remember?) asked the following:
> > <snip>
> > The sharing of your general feelings about the:
> >         -       Certification process/exam process itself
> >         -       Has certification made any impact on your salary or your
> > 'credibility'
> >         -       Any shortcomings about certification
> >         -       Any distinct benefits of certification
> >         -       If not a CRM.....why?
> >         -       Anything else you think is important
> > <snip>
> >
> > Has this august body been able to provide information about any of the
> > above? Maybe we should explore each of the above.
> >
> > Is the process/exam too hard, too soft or just right? Unfortunately or
> > fortunately I took the exams over 10 years ago and I know that they have
> > changed. The first 5 exams are now multiple choice while Number 6 (the
> > dreaded one) still consists of written case studies. Of course now you
> can
> > use a computer to complete number 6. Of course in my day we still had to
> > use
> > a blue book and pen or pencil no fancy computers allowed. But then the
> > ICRM
> > did investigate the use of computers for Part 6, why because applicants
> > wanted it, test scorers wanted it (easier to read than the wide
> varieties
> > of
> > handwriting)and probably other valid reasons.
> >
> > Is the application process too hard, too easy or is it just right. does
> it
> > exclude people unnecessarily? In the past I have sat on application
> review
> > committees that is not easy task. Three of us examined applications that
> > just missed the cut for some reason or another. Why the review? So that
> > the
> > process could be as fair as possible, because there were at that time no
> > standards across industries as to job duties. We did after each review
> > offer
> > suggestions for improvement to the ICRM. I believe that the Institute
> > bends
> > over backwards to be fair.
> >
> > Has certification made any impact on your salary or your 'credibility'
> > Definitely yes on the salary as to credibility that really depends upon
> > how
> > well I do the job I have. If the work I perform is not credible than my
> > credibility as well as that of other CRMs will suffer.
> >
> > Any shortcomings about certification
> > This annual discussion. Seriously I can't think of any but give me time.
> > If
> > anything it is explaining to non-RIM people what it means. What do
> > non-CRMs
> > see as the shortcomings.
> >
> > I will leave the rest for others. have fun.
> >
> >
> > Peter A. Kurilecz CRM, CA
> > Manager, Records Management
> > Woodside Summit Group, Inc
> > Richmond, Virginia
> > Tel: 804-744-1247 extension 23
> > Fax: 804-744-4947
> > mailto:[log in to unmask]
> >
> > >
>

Top of Message | Previous Page | Permalink

Advanced Options