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RECMGMT-L  May 2000

RECMGMT-L May 2000

Subject:

Re: Breaking out of the Back Room

From:

"Gary L. Grieme" <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Records Management Program <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Thu, 11 May 2000 11:59:09 -0400

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*****************Internet E-Mail Confidentiality Header**********************

Information contained in this E-Mail transmission is privileged and confidential.  If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, distribute, or reproduce this transmission.  If you have received
this E-Mail transmission in error, please call our Technical Support at 612-349-8799.

Robins, Kaplan, Miller & Ciresi L.L.P.
www.rkmc.com

*************************************************************************************

Right.  If today it takes seven career moves to make it from records to the top leadership of a company, we as a profession should be working to cut the number of moves it takes.  That's what we see happening in the IT profession.

Gary L. Grieme
Records Manager
Robins, Kaplan, Miller & Ciresi L.L.P.
Minneapolis, MN
612-349-8538
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>>> Jenny Jolinski <[log in to unmask]> 5/11/00 10:41:48 AM >>>
I don't think the issue is that people can't grow up to be president, but is
more a matter of day-to-day growth.  We need it to be a common day
occurrence that RMs are impacting their company.  It shouldn't be a story
that oh my gosh, one of us made it.
Jenny Jolinski, CRM
Corporate Records
Darden Restaurants, Inc.
P.O. Box 593330
Orlando, FL 32828
407-245-6638
407-245-4844 FAX
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                -----Original Message-----
                From:   Gary L. Grieme [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
                Sent:   Thursday, May 11, 2000 11:26 AM
                To:     [log in to unmask]
                Subject:        Re: Breaking out of the Back Room

                *****************Internet E-Mail Confidentiality
Header**********************

                Information contained in this E-Mail transmission is
privileged and confidential.  If you are not the intended recipient, please
do not read, distribute, or reproduce this transmission.  If you have
received
                this E-Mail transmission in error, please call our Technical
Support at 612-349-8799.

                Robins, Kaplan, Miller & Ciresi L.L.P.
                www.rkmc.com


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                One point Peter is trying to make is, don't think it's out
of the question that someone who starts their career in records management
can someday lead a Fortune 500 company.  There is an attorney in my firm who
started out as just another no-name associate from St. Paul, and today he's
running for United States Senate.  Going directly from the Records
Department to CEO is highly unlikely (although not impossible).  But people
change careers on the average seven or so times in their lifetime.  Why
couldn't someone who started in the Records Department climb the ladder to
the top?

                Read some biographies of famous people and look at the jobs
they've held on their way to the top.  Whining about how we records people
don't get the credit we deserve is a constant.  But I think most of us on
the listserv are in records management either because we like it, or because
we feel like we're headed in the right direction.  Those who aren't happy,
or feel trapped, should get out there and see what's possible.  A lot of IT
people are doing it, and they're grabbing the jobs that could be ours.
Think outside the box!

                Gary L. Grieme
                Records Manager
                Robins, Kaplan, Miller & Ciresi L.L.P.
                Minneapolis, MN
                612-349-8538
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                >>> Jenny Jolinski <[log in to unmask]> 5/11/00 9:32:46 AM
>>>
                Wishing it doesn't make it so.  So somehow, substituting
IT=RM in an article
                is going to make us feel better about our profession.  Don'
t think so.  We
                have stepped into the box put the lid on and stayed on the
shelf.
                Jenny Jolinski, CRM
                Corporate Records
                Darden Restaurants, Inc.
                P.O. Box 593330
                Orlando, FL 32828
                407-245-6638
                407-245-4844 FAX
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                                -----Original Message-----
                                From:   Kurilecz, Peter
                [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
                                Sent:   Thursday, May 11, 2000 9:25 AM
                                To:     [log in to unmask]
                                Subject:        Re: Breaking out of the Back
Room

                                Bill Roach wrote:
                                >A similar article recently appeared in the
April 2000 issue
                of Beyond
                                Computing.
                                An excellent article, too. thanks More about
it later.

                                Adam wrote:
                                >I must admit that I didn't read the article
because it
                appeared that
                                several of the people  >profiled were IT
people who went ot
                work in
                                e-businesses.

                                Hopefully you will go back and read both the
NYTimes article
                and the
                                Business computing. Your supposition is
wrong.

                                The Business Computing article has many
excellent points in
                it. Here are
                                some portions of it.

                                <snip>
                                What has changed is the way the field is
perceived by
                others. IT's value
                                isn't a corporate secret anymore, and most
enterprises are
                giving technology
                                personnel the respect they've earned.
                                <snip>
                                Just replace IT with RM and technology with
records and what
                do you get.

                                Bill wrote:
                                >Personally I think it has a lot to do with
how we operate.
                Do we position
                                ourselves as roadblocks or as enablers.
Maybe we should
                quit harping on the
                                records that haven't been shceduled for
destruction and
                start offering
                                solutions to problems.

                                The following quote from the article speaks
to his point.

                                <snip>
                                "Years ago, the attitude was, 'Keep me in
the back room, and
                I'll keep the
                                lights on and the machines running,'"
recalls Bill Bradley,
                director of
                                information management for Johnson &
Johnson, the New
                Brunswick, N.J.-based
                                pharmaceutical and toiletry manufacturer.
"Now, IT managers
                have to really
                                learn the business: how research works, how
engineering
                works, how sales and
                                marketing work."
                                <snip>
                                <snip>IT professionals have become "highly
valued in the
                corporation."<snip>
                                Once again in the following piece just
replace IT with RM
                and see what you
                                get.
                                <snip>Bradley, who's in charge of research,
development and
                franchise
                                management for Johnson & Johnson's consumer
companies, is
                also eloquent on
                                the subject of business's reliance on
information
                technology. "IT is
                                becoming much more ingrained in a company's
business
                decisions, rather than
                                just being a cost center," he says. "Now,
when people look
                at IT, they ask,
                                'How can it bring down costs, make us more
efficient and
                drive the
                                business?'"<snip>
                                The following piece speaks IMHO directly to
all of us in
                RIM. We must become
                                more knowledgeable about our businesses.
                                <snip>John Schlenker, vice president of
information systems
                and CIO at
                                Knoxville, Tenn.-based St. Mary's Health
System, sees
                challenges in that
                                change.
                                "IT people must develop a much better
understanding of the
                business," he
                                points out, "and IT managers have to become
more politically
                astute. More
                                than ever, our managers must show that the
systems they're
                putting in will
                                have real value from a business and a
clinical point of
                view."
                                Libbey's Zarb also stresses the need to
acquire the
                knowledge that is
                                required to meet business goals. "We in IT
haven't evolved
                to be business
                                thinkers as fast as the user base and
management have
                evolved to be
                                technology thinkers," he remarks. "We need
to be a lot more
                perceptive and
                                knowledgeable about the business."<snip>
                                The following quotes concern the skills and
knowledge that
                IT people
                                percieve as necessary to move ahead.
                                <snip>. "IT managers need communication and
political skills
                that enable
                                them to participate in high-level
negotiations and
                discussions," <snip>
                                <snip>Johnson & Johnson's Bradley predicts
that business
                skills will be the
                                most vital career asset in the future. "If
you have to
                choose between buying
                                a piece of equipment or installing a new
piece of software,"
                he points out,
                                "you have to understand both the financial
impact and the
                business benefits
                                of that decision."
                                Perhaps the most dramatic consensus
unearthed by the survey
                involved skills
                                enhancement. When asked what skills they
plan to hone during
                the next five
                                years, the area of e-business and Internet
knowledge won by
                a landslide.
                                <snip>
                                <snip>The second most popular area for
future skill
                development was general
                                business expertise, cited by 42 percent. "I
look for
                opportunities in other
                                departments that will improve my skills in
areas where they
                may be lacking,"
                                Johnson & Johnson's Bradley explains. "So
I'll try for a
                managerial
                                assignment in an area, even if it's just a
six-month
                rotation."
                                He encourages his most promising people to
do the same. "The
                stints may be
                                short-term," he notes, "but if you've worked
in an area like
                marketing,
                                you'll be able to speak their language when
they come to you
                with an IT
                                problem."<snip>

                                Maybe I'm wrong and maybe I'm right but I
found both
                articles fascinating
                                and encouraging.
                                Well as that marvelous thespian celluloid
actor said so
                eloquently, "T T T T
                                T T T T T T T That's all Folks!"


                                Peter A. Kurilecz CRM, CA
                                Manager, Records Management
                                Woodside Summit Group, Inc
                                Richmond, Virginia
                                Tel: 804-744-1247 extension 23
                                Fax: 804-744-4947

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