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RECMGMT-L November 2000

Subject:

Re: Encouraging Questions & Answers

From:

Peter Marinic <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Records Management Program <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Thu, 30 Nov 2000 20:37:33 -0800

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> Subject:
>          Encouraging Questions and Answers
>    Date:
>          Wed, 29 Nov 2000 20:34:46 +1100
>    From:
>          Ann Pederson
>      To:
>          [log in to unmask]
>
>
>
>
> Dear Colleagues,
>
> YIPPEE!  What a great line of discussion.  I haven't had a chance to read
> all, but I am certainly going to!
>
> I am delighted that Adrian's notes interpreting aspects of Terry Cook's
> ASA and Verne Harris's ICA papers have sparked renewed discussion of the
> nature of the recordkeeping enterprise and perceptions of Australia's
> contributions to it.  It gives all of us a welcome chance to
>
>         *Contemplate for ourselves and perhaps comment on each author's theses and
> arguments
>         *articulate further the profound richness of the recordkeeping endeavour
>
> I join Harris and Cook and most thoughtful contributors to the
> recordkeeping discourse in rejecting as dangerous any interpretation of the
> Records Management Continuum and its corollary concept of the "record as
> evidence" that
>         *is narrow, exclusive, legalistic, excessively corporate and
>         *denies the full richness of documentary stewardship
>         *in any way claims Australian "ownership" over "orthodox" interpretation
>
> HOWEVER at the moment, only a few of the world wide listservers have heard
> or had access to the papers in question.  Before I can comment further on
> Terry's and Verne's papers, I would like to ask each of them to post their
> papers [or at least summaries of their key definitions, contentions and
> arguments] so that they can be more widely read.
>
> I would like to comment on several points raised in Adrian's well-founded
> and timed expression of concern.
>
> THE CHARACTISATION OF THE CONCEPT OF THE RECORD AS EVIDENCE AS
> "INTELLECTUALLY BANKRUPT."
>
> This assertion is based upon an erroneously legalistic interpretation of
> evidence and is not justified. What can be criticised is the fact that to
> date the discourse has focused upon the institutional record.  What needs
> to asked and answered are the questions "What consitutes evidence and how
> does it differ from context to context?" "How does the concept of evidence
> apply to the personal and private spheres - to worship, thoughts,
> aspirations, dreams and fantasies? Isn't the essential wellspring of memory
>  evidence of some sort?  More discussion on these area is urgently needed.
>
> THE CHARACTERISATION OF THE CONTINUUM MANAGEMENT MODEL AS AN AUSTRALIAN
> JUGGARNAUT
>
> To points here, Harris in particular depicts two things as "inherently
> bad'.  A politically correct approach to orthodoxy and Australian jingoism.
>
> ON ORTHODOXY
> Whilst I see informed criticism as invaluable and believe it is the
> thinking person's duty to challenge and refine concepts and principles, I
> am not one who sees a profession moving towards a consensus based orthodoxy
> as seditious or anti-intellectual.
>
> In fact, I believe that an "orthodoxy" such as that of the Continuum,
> emphasises inclusiveness and positively encourages discourse on the nature
> of our invaluable work is to be applauded and promoted , not avoided or
> condemned.
>
> My basis for this position lies in the simple fact that recordkeepers of
> all persuasions are very poorly understood in the community, a situation
> that continues to hold us back professionally, erode the quality of our
> societies and put the cumulative record ie. archival heritage itself in
> jeopardy.
>
> As archivists in the so-called "New World Developed Countries" of
> Australia, Canada and the USA know all too well, most people have minimal
> knowledge of archives/records work, much less understand the vital role
> records play in society. This ignorance is even more rampant in emerging
> and developing nations, many of which are struggling to make and keep [or
> recover] archives reflecting a mixture of indigenous oral and colonial
> literate traditions.
>
> If we ourselves cannot articulate fully the value and variety of our work
> to the wider society in terms it can understand, how can we expect that
> society to respect and support it? We need an inclusive, but cohesive and
> easy to grasp "mission statement."
>
>  In the mid-1990s David Bearman working with Monash-led Australian
> colleagues proposed  "ensuring evidence through effective recordkeeping"
> and the "recordkeeping enterprise as a continuum of responsible management"
> as umbrella concepts under which all archives/records specialisations might
> stand and be understood by the wider community. After all, everyone who
> watches TV crime dramas knows that evidence must be properly captured and
> managed and that its power radiates from the witness it bears to real
> thoughts, decisions, intentions their subsequent events.
>
> Framing message and using  a metaphor that can at last help us to be widely
> understood and appreciated has enormous value.
>
> ON AUSTRALIAN JINGOISM
> Verne Harris's paper characterises the Records Continuum position an
> "Australian  juggernaut" of  political correctness that denies, rolls over
> and stifling other perspectives and voices. Terry Cook warns us to
> excessive stridency and a skewed focus on the institutionalised record. If
> these perception are accurate and widespread as claimed, we are certainly
> in danger of shooting ourselves in the foot. . .or should I say footing
> ourselves in the mouth.
>
> We Australians need to be reminded that the concepts and discourse we
> espouse so enthusiastically have multinational roots and branches.
> Colleagues in the US, Canada, the UK, Netherlands, Germany and many other
> countries have freely shared their own views and taken time to assist
> discourse leaders with thoughtful comments and suggestions.
>
> So if ever we are tempted to think or behave proprietarily, let's think
> again.  A them-vs- us approach only reflects badly on its professors and
> leads to their being avoided like the plague. Anyone, anywhere who wants
> question or contribute should be welcomed in the interests of achieving a
> fuller and better articulated discourse.
>
> Again, thank you, Adrian, Terry and Verne for inspiring yet another chapter
> in the recordkeeping discourse.
>
>
> best,
>
> AnnP
>
>
> *******
> At 01:40 PM 28/11/2000 +1100, you wrote:
> >Dear aus-archivists
> >
> >In recent months two conference papers have been presented (one in Melbourne
> >and one in Seville, Spain) which pose fundamental questions about the nature
> >and direction of the Australian recordkeeping discourse.
> >
> >In his keynote address at the ASA Conference in August, Canadian Terry Cook
> >issued a warning to Australian recordkeepers to be wary of helping bring
> >about a devastating schism in the professional recordkeeping community. As
> >Cook sees it, we are at risk of experiencing a schism between those who
> >espouse the importance of records as evidence for organisational
> >accountability and those who emphasise the importance of records as sources
> >of cultural memory.
> >
> >In Cook's view we need an inclusive discourse that gives encouragement to
> >both these different (though complementary and interdependent) perspectives
> >on the uses and importance of records. Cook argued that the records
> >continuum school of thought ought to be a means of unifying these twin sides
> >of the archival coin by highlighting the fact that each is worthless without
> >the other. Too often, however, the discourse gives the impression that the
> >choice is an either/or one - that the two perpsectives are incompatible.
> >Cook quoted a number of examples from the Australian discourse where
> >proponents of the records continuum were witheringly dismissive of the
> >cultural concerns of many archivists. He counselled us to reject such a
> >narrow interpretation of the records continuum in our professional rhetoric
> >- to be more encouraging of views from the periphery and to make space for
> >the 4th dimension of the records continuum to shape the other 3 dimensions.
> >
> >At the heart of Cook's thesis is a belief that there exists an unresolved
> >tension between the notions of evidence and memory. On its own evidence
> >provides no guarantee of justice. We have to be aware that records and
> >archives are vital players in dynamic and contested societal struggles
> >centring around power, ideology and the role of collective memory. Just as
> >records are never neutral or objective, so too is our role as recordkeeping
> >professionals never entirely value free and objective. According to Cook,
> >too much of the Australian discourse operates in an apparent state of denial
> >of these truths.
> >
> >At the ICA Congress in Seville in September Verne Harris of South Africa
> >went much further in openly criticising the Australian discourse. He pulled
> >no punches when he labelled the 'records as evidence' discourse as being
> >'intellectually bankrupt'. He criticised our discourse for forfeiting 'large
> >tracts of the archival heartland' and for claiming for "the record" only a
> >'single ontology - the record is evidence of process, of activity, of
> >transaction'. According to Harris this approach 'excludes the possibility
> >that people (individuals, orgaisations, societies) generate and keep records
> >fro reasons other than "evidence of process". It excludes the possibility
> >that qualities, or attributes, or dynamics, other than "evidence" enjoy
> >equally legitimate claims on the concept of "record" - for instance,
> >remembering, forgetting, imagining, falsifying, constructing, translating,
> >fictionalising, narrating.'
> >
> >He characterised our discourse as leaving little if any room for alternative
> >points of view: the indigenous, the local, the poetic, the mysterious, the
> >humane. The fact that those who question the records as evidence orthodoxy
> >are often dismissed with 'surly arrogance' and sometimes even publicly
> >ridiculed and humiliated illustrates that our discourse is making us
> >'hostile to contestation and comfortable in the exercise of power'. This
> >echoes a point that Cook made in Melbourne: 'we make our tools and our tools
> >make us'.
> >
> >Harris criticised our discourse for its 'sanctification of "business" and
> >"management"; the commodification of knowledge'. He concluded by calling on
> >us all to 'avoid the record-keepers' confusion of means with ends, and
> >definition of themselves in terms of those means. They must not allow their
> >engagement with law and policy, regulations and standards, management and
> >administration, strategies and systems, evidence and accountability, to make
> >them forget the archive as locus of memory and story.'
> >
> >In response to a question from the floor (Ann Pederson) which argued that
> >Harris was presenting a characature of the Australian discourse, Harris
> >conceded that his short talk was unavoidably an oversimplification of the
> >Australian situation. However, he then went on to liken the National
> >Archives of Australia to a 'juggernaut' which is pushing all alternative
> >points of view off the archival agenda in Australia.
> >
> >This is strong stuff indeed. I bring it to your attention because I think we
> >need to confront the questions that Cook and Harris have posed. Indeed, it
> >is somewhat surprising to me that (as far as I am aware) there has not yet
> >been any public discussion of these papers. It is of course always useful to
> >have the opportunity to 'see ourselves as others see us'. Australians have
> >become used to views from abroad being either horrified reactions from
> >traditionalists who are discomforted by Australia's ability to approach
> >recordkeeping with a fresh perspective, or (at the other extreme) fawning
> >praise from our growing cadre of international fellow-travellers. The
> >challenge we have from Cook and Harris is something new - here we have two
> >leading progressive thinkers who are fully appreciative of the contributions
> >made by the Australian discourse, but who see grave dangers and problems
> >inherent in our very success.
> >
> >It is now time for us to debate these important issues.......
> >
> >Adrian Cunningham
> >-
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