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PSYART July 2001, Week 4

Subject:

Emotions

From:

Norman Holland <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Institute for Psychological Study of the Arts <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Sat, 21 Jul 2001 16:59:17 -0400

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Richard [Creed],
You might go to the original source for these, Konrad Lorenz for the
imprinting, and Jaak Panksepp (_Affective Neuroscience_, a hefty price, but
well worth it for the extensive information in it.) for the bond of love, and
other human emotions that are biologically driven.
Lorraine

In a message dated 7/21/2001 10:52:29 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[log in to unmask] writes:


>
>
> From:
>         "Richard Creed" <[log in to unmask]>
>
> 2:26 PM
>
>
> I read Norm's post over Wendy's shoulder (then got a copy of my own) &
> thought I
> might contribute tuppence (two cents?) worth.
>
> 1. I haven't seen the movie.
> 2. To be fair, Kubrick had been playing with this idea for 15 years;
> Spielberg
> has only had a hold of it for the last two - but then he got to do the
> 'Gloss' -
> tribute or not.
> 3. Of the issues Norm raised, (in particular "What is the nature of human
> emotion?  ...Is the love between mother and child the one pure emotion? ")
> I'd
> like to refer Psyarters to the available draft chapters of Marvin Minsky's
> new
> (to be) book 'The Emotion Machine' (
> http://www.media.mit.edu/people/minsky/ ).
>
> It's a shame you've (probably temporarily, because he's re-working it )
> missed
> Part 1 (which was definately focussed on emotions, their power, and not
> least
> the words we use to describe them - the object of love, for example, is
> *impossible* to describe, his/her beauty *unbelieveable*, this feeling is
> *overwhelming*; I'm not choosing the words as well as he, but the essence
> was
> the negativity of the words used when describing this elevated state).
>
> I digress. Part 2 addresses emotional foundations, and a key idea is what
> Minsky
> calls 'Impriming'  - think of imprinting, ducklings following a human
> 'mother'
> figure - only here the imprimer is responsible for (albeit indirectly)
> reinforcing the emotional satisfaction/dissatisfaction of the 'imprimed's'
> behavio(u)r. So for example, a child's experimental play may result in
> pleasure
> if its mother reacts favo(u)rably to the result, and this will reinforce its
> desire to experiment again - whereas a negative reaction will suppress the
> desire to experiment. Not a new idea, Mr. Freud, but Minsky suggests that
> the
> prerequisite for these reactions is the attachment to the imprimer - and if
> you
> bring this back to the idea of duckings following the first thing they see
> when
> hatched, the consequences could be damaging ...
>
> I think reading the drafts will give you a better picture than I can.
> Minsky's
> spent some time on getting the words right, and is, of course, the major
> A.I.
> force at M.I.T. And he's quite pleasantly readable.
>
> Richard Creed
>


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