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PSYART  September 2001, Week 4

PSYART September 2001, Week 4

Subject:

Verbal attacks on U.S.

From:

Norman Holland <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Institute for Psychological Study of the Arts <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Mon, 24 Sep 2001 18:04:53 -0400

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       To Kathy Agar and all:
       Dear Kathy,
       Your posting on the viciousness of the verbal attacks on the United
States by educated people was greatly appreciated. Thank you very much.
        As an observer of discussions, with a desire for progress rather than
status quo chit-chat, I'm less interested in whether or not this one or that
one is "right" about America, and who has the best facts proving this and
that about who's the most evil person on earth.
       So much of political discussion is actually free association under the
illusion that points are being made and taken in by the opposition.
       In order for progress rather than status quo to occur, it's simply not
useful knowing how bad the U.S. is or how bad Islamic terrorists are or how
America has given more money for humanitarian aid to Afghanistan than any
other country on earth but so what, their bad outweighs their good by 84%
blah blah blah (As Doris Lessing wrote of political discussions, "and, and,
and, therefore, therefore, therefore".)
       As someone who's interested in progress, not status quo, I'd like to
know the motives of all those who make points in discussions.
      I've been studying political discussion for twenty years and have come
up with a list of many possible motives for exposing the sins of a person or
group. Here I'll present only three of the many.
   1.  the sake of simple truth. For the sake of truth we ought to know that
the United States is bad. Except that if truth is genuinely the motive of the
speaker, the truth-teller would have to widen it to present not only the bad
of the United States but the good, and continue on to the bad of the
terrorists as well as the good. In other words if Truth is a person's genuine
motive, the whole truth would be presented. Obviously, telling the whole
truth in this discussion is not a motive and the depressive position has been
avoided yet again. In many discussions I've observed the speaker will seem to
be even and fair but it's evident to all that when his pet points are being
made his tone of voice becomes excited, more descriptive, desperate. Freud
said the truth leaks so if Truth is your motive be careful what's leaking
instead.
  2.  Another motive for exposing the badness of an Other is enlightenment
and change. The speaker making points has as a motive the enlightenment of
the United States in the hope that it will see its evil ways, see the light,
stop doing bad things in other parts of the world and help the world come
together in a way it never has before. That is a good motive, it's loving as
well as truthful. However, in the context of the mass murder on the United
States less than two weeks ago the patient (the United States) is not quite
ready to use the accurate information about its role in getting thousands of
its people turned into dust and ash in two seconds flat on a sunny morning in
September.
     In other words, to use the interesting Canadian example, a woman who has
just been brutally raped might need to learn the role of miniskirts on
deserted streets at nighttime. She won't find it useful though, not less than
two weeks after she was bloodied and smeared with semen as she was pinned
down with a knife at her throat. She simply won't be open to enlightenment
and behavior change at that particular time. In fact if she understood the
unconscious she'd theorize that the person giving her interesting information
about miniskirts was unconsciously trying to induce her to violence, not
progressive change. So when a point-maker is genuinely interested in
enlightenment and positive world change, he automatically considers the
context and timing of his brilliant points and indisputable facts.
   The third (and last motive I want to present now) for making good points
and accurate facts is rage. Overt rage is useful, disguised rage is impotent.
Disguised rage is fine but it can't be hidden in the guise of wanting the
world to be a better place. It simply doesn't have that effect on listeners,
whose unconscious can tell a vicious attack when it hears on. Vicious attacks
are a perfectly acceptable motive for making points, but when it's done in
the guise of wanting the world to be a better place, who do you think you're
fooling? You may as well say, I couldn't care less about the United States
becoming enlightened and changing, I love having it continue to do stupid
brutal things so that I can continue to project all of my own unresolved
viciousness into that big mama, and feel like I'm the enlightened one.
  That's the third motive for excellent political points but remember, points
and facts won't make the world a better place unless that's the genuine
motive of the discussants. Examine your motive, then present the whole story.
Thank you.

Best regards,

Jean Hantman
------------------------------------
Jean G. Hantman, Ph.D.
Internet:
www.therapyathome.org/
www.yorku.ca/dcarveth/

------------------------------------
Jean G. Hantman, Ph.D.
Internet:
www.therapyathome.org/
www.yorku.ca/dcarveth/

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