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PSYART September 2001, Week 4

Subject:

Re: Is terrorism inaccessible to reason?

From:

Norman Holland <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Institute for Psychological Study of the Arts <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Tue, 25 Sep 2001 17:41:43 -0400

Content-Type:

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From:
        "Donald L. Carveth, Ph.D." <[log in to unmask]>

12:08 AM


(snip)

> Is violent fundamentalism essentially responsive in nature -- produced
> as a reaction to a specific situation or situations perceived as
> intolerable -- or are their deeper reasons why people become fanatically
> fundamentalist?  The question intersects with the debate in
> psychoanalusis that pits Kohutians and some object relationists against
> more traditional Freudians: is violence essentially responsive
> (therefore preventable) or is it a natural human proclivity that only
> coercive means can control?
>
> In weighing the policies that the U.S. can adopt, it is essential to
> grasp the motivational mainsprings of terrorism.  Those of us who have
> studied underlying human motivations could make a valuable contribution
> to this debate.  But what do we have to say?
>
> Raymond Barglow
> Berkeley, CA

I think we need to break out of the Freudian (violence as natural human
proclivity) and Kohutian (violence as essentially responsive) versions of
the nature/nurture debate.  In the Kleinian perspective fundamentalism in
the broadest sense is simply an aspect of the paranoid-schizoid position, a
structure of the mind of everyone.  We are all fundamentalists on this level
and we all have the perpetual task of fighting free of the splitting and
part-object relating and projection and the literalism and fanaticism that
characterize PS in favour of the whole-object relating, the tolerance for
ambivalence and ambiguity and uncertainty that characterize the depressive
position.  We all oscillate between these two positions, but some are more
firmly rooted in D than others.  Here is where social factors do come into
play.  Our capacity to move out of PS toward D depends to a considerable
extent on the quality of the holding environment provided initially by
primary caretakers and then in a wider sense by society in general.
Societal failures of containment breed paranoid-schizoid dynamics and
therefore fundamentalism.

Best,

Don
--
Donald L. Carveth,
Training & Supervising Analyst
Canadian Institute of Psychoanalysis (IPA)
Editor, _Kleinian Studies_: http://human-nature.com/ksej
Asst. Editor, _Canadian Journal of Psychoanalysis/Revue Canadienne
de Psychanalyse_: http://home.ican.net/~analyst/cjp.htm
York University, Glendon College
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    --Jean Martin Charcot

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