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Re: Fwd: Freud & Minna

From:

Norman Holland <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Institute for Psychological Study of the Arts <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Fri, 1 Mar 2002 16:13:06 -0500

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From:
               Daniel Sapen <[log in to unmask]>

Thu 4:52 PM

Good point.  My response may have been correct (may, I say) but it was a jerk of
the knee.  Not the knee of a jerk, i hope.

Dan

Norman Holland wrote:

> From:
>         Norman Rosenblood <[log in to unmask]>
>
> 11:14 AM
>
>           Re: Delvers, Dirt Diggers and Lowdown Getters on Freud
>           -------------------------------------------------------
>
>  Amidst the righteous flurry of who is entitled to assay Freud's sexual
> profile, may I be permitted to say that a distinction should be made
> between those who dig for/ moil in order to discredit tried and true
> concepts-- such as Oedipal conflict, the unconscious, transference,
> narcissism, melancholia, castration, repression and fetish --and those who
> seek to understand those concepts, not to discredit/disprove, but to
> deepen understanding of the psychoanalytic model.
>
> As Taylor has pointed out in a previous post, very little of the latter
> has been achieved. It would be most salutary if works of this kind could
> be cited by those dedicated to such pursuits and applications.
>
> Again, I await news on Newton's sexual dalliances. Gravity is getting me
> down. I suspect some of Freud's concepts are doing the same.
>
> Norm Rosenblood
>
> -------------------------------------------------------
> On Mon, 25 Feb 2002, Norman Holland wrote:
>
> > From:
> >         larry Lyons <[log in to unmask]>
> >
> > Sun 10:20 PM
> >
> >
> > >
> > >  Even better, perhaps, let us analyse the desire to
> > > delve. Surely, such a
> > > project would add to the psychoanalytic
> > > understanding of the need to
> > > understand all things and how the wish to delve
> > > chooses its object.
> > > Or has that already been done to death as well?
> >
> > This sounds totally fascinating!  "The wish to delve
> > chooses its object!"   I didn't know that had been
> > done to death.  I'm too slow a reader to catch up on
> > everything.  I should have started when I was a kid.
> >
> >
> > Anyway, it's scary how widespread and persistent this
> > attitude towards Freud's sexuality is.  I found the
> > following remarks written in the Time magazine 1993
> > cover story, “Is Freud Dead:”
> >
> > “Freud believed an ex-patient of Jung’s named Sabina
> > Spielrein had also been Jung’s
> > mistress;  Jung in turn surmised that Freud had become
> > involved with his sister-in-law,
> > Minna Bernays.  Both antagonists in this standoff held
> > bombshells that could blow each
> > other’s reputation from Vienna to Zurich and back;
> > both backed off, divided up the
> > spoils of their joint investigations and retreated to
> > opposing tents of theory."
> >
> > “Was this any way to found an objective science?
> > Freud’s defenders argue that his personal
> > life is irrelevant to his contributions to learning--a
> > rather odd contention , given Freud’s
> > statement that his development of  the analytic method
> > began with his pioneering
> > analysis of himself.”
> >
> >
> > The most amazing thing about it is that this was
> > written by professional journalists--the cream of the
> > crop.  They worked for Time magazine!  This was a bad
> > day for psychoanalysis.  People respect the opinions
> > of reporters who use snooty highbrow phraseology like
> > “a rather odd contention.”   About the only thing we
> > can do about it is sit back and laugh.  Maybe we could
> > have some fun with it.  I propose we concoct evidence
> > of Freud’s frantic sexuality and plant it in Piltdown
> > or someplace, then send an anonymous letter to Swales
> > telling him where to look.  Psychoanalysis would have
> > a field day analyzing the effect on Freud’s critics.
> >
> > Yours,
> >                      Larry
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games
> > http://sports.yahoo.com
> >
> >
>
>
 ===========================================================================
>
> Norman Rosenblood, Ph.D., Training and Supervising Analyst
> c/o Chester New Hall, Room 415
> McMaster University
> 1200 Main Street West                   Telephone (905) 525-9140, Ext. 24495
> Hamilton, Ontario, L8S 4L9
> Canada
>
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