> From:         Claire Hershman
> Subject:      East of Eden
>
>
> Dear don etc. and murrary.
>
> Surely the mother is bad "I am bad cos my mum was bad' not evil. This is a
> very intersting thread. Has anyone got any other sources on steinbeck and
> kazan
> Thanks claire in london
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 3. Fw: epistemology of Reality in A MIDSUMMER NIGHT'S DREAM, HAMLET,
> OTHELLO,
> >    MACBETH; and TO THE LIGHTHOUSE
> > 4. Fw: Greenacre, pp. 510 ff of STUDIES IN CREATIVITY
> > 5. Fw: Myths and monsters
> > 6. inquiry about impostors (2)
> > 7. Reality and literature (2)
> > 8. Reality-testing in literature
> > 9. Fw: East of eden
> > 10. Fw: Epistemology of modernism: Banfield, THE PHANTOM TABLE
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Date:    Mon, 24 Feb 2003 07:48:27 -0500
> > From:    "Murray M.Schwartz" <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Fw: Reality and literature
> >
> > From: "Cohen, Izzy" <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: RE: Reality and literature
> >
> >
> > Check out The Phantom Tollbooth
> > by Norton Juster, illustrated by Jules Feiffer
> > Copyright 1961.
> >
> > [log in to unmask]
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Norman Holland [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 1:15 AM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Reality and literature
> >
> >
> > From:
> >      Linda Pilgrim <[log in to unmask]>
> >
> > 1:32 PM
> >
> >
> > Off the top of your heads, can anyone suggest any writing on reality (i.e.,
> > discerning it, how characters figure have trouble with it or figuring out
> > what it is, etc.) in literature or literary criticism?
> >
> > Linda Pilgrim
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date:    Mon, 24 Feb 2003 07:51:29 -0500
> > From:    "Murray M.Schwartz" <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Fw: ? Greenacre re Chatterton et al.; inquiry about impostors
> >
> > From: "Dianne Hunter" <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: ? Greenacre re Chatterton et al.; inquiry about impostors
> >
> >
> > Dear Andy,
> >
> > I think the psychoanalyst Phyl. Greenacre wrote on the family romance of
> > the artist, Chatterton et al.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > DH
> >
> >> X-Accept-Language: en
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> >> Approved-By:  Norman Holland <[log in to unmask]>
> >> Date:         Sun, 23 Feb 2003 18:17:32 -0500
> >> Reply-To: Institute for Psychological Study of the Arts
> >>              <[log in to unmask]>
> >> Sender: Institute for Psychological Study of the Arts
> >>              <[log in to unmask]>
> >> From: Norman Holland <[log in to unmask]>
> >> Subject:      inquiry about impostors
> >> To: [log in to unmask]
> >> Status:
> >>
> >> From:
> >>       ANDREW GORDON <[log in to unmask]>
> >>
> >> 4:26 PM
> >>
> >> Subject:
> >>       inquiry about impostors
> >>    To:
> >>       [log in to unmask]
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Dear Fellow Psyarters,
> >>
> >>        Can anyone out there enlighten me on references to the psychology
> >> of the impostor?  I am thinking of such works as "The Great Impostor,"
> >> "Zelig," and the recent "Catch Me If you Can."   What is behind the
> >> identities (or lack of identity) of such figures?  Who has  written about
> >> this phenomenon?
> >>
> >>                                     Thanks in advance,
> >>                                     Andy Gordon
> >>
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date:    Mon, 24 Feb 2003 08:41:08 -0500
> > From:    "Murray M.Schwartz" <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Fw: Reality and literature
> >
> > From: "Janet Lucas" <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Re: Reality and literature
> >
> >
> > Dear Linda,
> >
> > I would strongly recommend a book called 'The Edge of the Alphabet' by Janet
> > Frame.  It is beautifully written using defamiliarization (in the Russian>
> > Formalist sense) to not only depict the lives of 3 people living 'on the
> > Edge of the Alphabet' (here the title can be very interestingly and
> > productively compared and contrasted with Lacan's Symbolic Order as a
> > structure predicated upon language, and the the persons on the 'edge' as, in
> > a sense, falling off the world--existentially speaking), but to diminish the
> > comforting ground of 'reality' from beneath our feet.  It is in many ways
> > like the works of Samuel Beckett (a favorite of mine), but more poetic in
> > tone.  The beauty in tone in conjunction with the 'unsettling' effect,
> > however makes this text even more powerful.  I strongly recommend it.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Janet Lucas
> > Social and Political Thought
> > York University
> > e-mail: [log in to unmask]
> > web: http://www.student.yorku.ca
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Norman Holland" <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 6:14 PM
> > Subject: Reality and literature
> >
> >
> >> From:
> >>        Linda Pilgrim <[log in to unmask]>
> >>
> >> 1:32 PM
> >>
> >>
> >> Off the top of your heads, can anyone suggest any writing on reality
> > (i.e.,
> >> discerning it, how characters figure have trouble with it or figuring out
> >> what it is, etc.) in literature or literary criticism?
> >>
> >> Linda Pilgrim
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date:    Mon, 24 Feb 2003 09:36:40 -0500
> > From:    "Murray M.Schwartz" <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Fw: epistemology of Reality in A MIDSUMMER NIGHT'S DREAM, HAMLET,
> >        OTHELLO, MACBETH; and TO THE LIGHTHOUSE
> >
> > From: "Dianne Hunter" <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: epistemology of Reality in A MIDSUMMER NIGHT'S DREAM, HAMLET,
> > OTHELLO, MACBETH; and TO THE LIGHTHOUSE
> >
> >
> > Dear Linda Pilgrim:
> >
> > Shakespeare's plays A MIDSUMMER NIGHT'S, HAMLET, OTHELLO, and MACBETH all
> > dramatize yr theme.
> >
> > "subject, object, and the nature of reality" are themes in Virginia Woolf's
> > novel TO THE LIGHTHOUSE.
> >
> > DH
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date:    Mon, 24 Feb 2003 09:42:40 -0500
> > From:    "Murray M.Schwartz" <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Fw: Greenacre, pp. 510 ff of STUDIES IN CREATIVITY
> >
> > From: "Dianne Hunter" <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 7:23 AM
> > Subject: Greenacre, pp. 510 ff of STUDIES IN CREATIVITY
> >
> >
> > In the above, Phyllis Greenacre analyzes Thomas Chatterton.
> >
> > DH
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date:    Mon, 24 Feb 2003 12:28:32 -0500
> > From:    "Murray M.Schwartz" <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Fw: Myths and monsters
> >
> > From: "Claire Hershman" <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: "Institute for Psychological Study of the Arts" <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 12:01 PM
> > Subject: Myths and monsters
> >
> >
> > --
> > ..
> >> Myths & MonstersS
> >> Drawing on the works of C G Jung and Joseph Campbell, psychotherapist
> > Claire
> >> Odeon Hershman explores the rich mythology of Hollywood classics to reveal
> >> what the myths and monsters of the silver screen tell us about our inner
> >> selves.
> >
> >>
> > Course starts May and is held at city university London. Department of adult
> > education Friday nights for 8 weeks weeks
> >
> > Telephone  0207 226 9218.  email
> >> [log in to unmask]
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date:    Mon, 24 Feb 2003 13:21:30 -0500
> > From:    Norman Holland <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Re: inquiry about impostors
> >
> > From:
> >      Norman Rosenblood <[log in to unmask]>
> >
> > Sun 7:29 PM
> >
> >
> >
> > Phyllis Greenacre has two articles and Helene Deutsch one on the dynamics
> > of the imposter. One might also consider the "as if" personality who>
> > appears to be relating but is not. For a literary treatment of the
> > imposter one might examine Thurber's THE SECRET LIFE OF WALTER MITTY. The
> > latter has some perceptive insights into the issue of castration. Another
> > aspect of the imposter is the the popularity of a good impressionist.
> > Perhaps, for a number of unconscious reasons, we all take delight in being
> > able to be somebody else. Then there is the question of who would we be if
> > we were unable to avail ourselves of identification, incorporation and
> > introjection. The movie CATCH ME IF YOU CAN dramatizes very vividly the
> > the need to overcome loss, disappointment and unworthiness through
> > imposturing.
> >
> > Norm Rosenblood
> >
> >
> > -----------------------------------------------------
> > On Sun, 23 Feb 2003, Norman Holland wrote:
> >
> >> From:
> >>        ANDREW GORDON <[log in to unmask]>
> >>
> >> 4:26 PM
> >>
> >>  Subject:
> >>        inquiry about impostors
> >>     To:
> >>        [log in to unmask]
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Dear Fellow Psyarters,
> >>
> >>         Can anyone out there enlighten me on references to the psychology
> >> of the impostor?  I am thinking of such works as "The Great Impostor,"
> >> "Zelig," and the recent "Catch Me If you Can."   What is behind the
> >> identities (or lack of identity) of such figures?  Who has  written about
> >> this phenomenon?
> >>
> >>                                      Thanks in advance,
> >>                                      Andy Gordon
> >>
> >>
> >
> > ============================================================================
> >
> > Norman Rosenblood, Ph.D., Training and Supervising Analyst
> > c/o Chester New Hall, Room 415
> > McMaster University
> > 1200 Main Street West                   Telephone (905) 525-9140, Ext. 24495
> > Hamilton, Ontario, L8S 4L9
> > Canada
> > =============================================================================
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date:    Mon, 24 Feb 2003 13:34:15 -0500
> > From:    Norman Holland <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Re: Reality and literature
> >
> > From:
> >      "Emmett, Paul" <[log in to unmask]>
> >
> > Sun 9:37 PM
> >
> > Isn't discerning reality THE problem in much of literature? Hawthorne,
> > Faulkner, Conrad, Poe, Robbe-Grillet, ...
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Norman Holland [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 5:15 PM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Reality and literature
> >
> > From:
> >      Linda Pilgrim <[log in to unmask]>
> >
> > 1:32 PM
> >
> >
> > Off the top of your heads, can anyone suggest any writing on reality
> > (i.e.,
> > discerning it, how characters figure have trouble with it or figuring
> > out
> > what it is, etc.) in literature or literary criticism?
> >
> > Linda Pilgrim
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date:    Mon, 24 Feb 2003 13:34:45 -0500
> > From:    Norman Holland <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Re: Reality and literature
> >
> > From:
> >      "Janet Lucas" <[log in to unmask]>
> >
> > 8:15 AM
> >
> > Dear Linda,
> >
> > I would strongly recommend a book called 'The Edge of the Alphabet' by Janet
> > Frame.  It is beautifully written using defamiliarization (in the Russian
> > Formalist sense) to not only depict the lives of 3 people living 'on the
> > Edge of the Alphabet' (here the title can be very interestingly and
> > productively compared and contrasted with Lacan's Symbolic Order as a
> > structure predicated upon language, and the the persons on the 'edge' as, in
> > a sense, falling off the world--existentially speaking), but to diminish the
> > comforting ground of 'reality' from beneath our feet.  It is in many ways
> > like the works of Samuel Beckett (a favorite of mine), but more poetic in
> > tone.  The beauty in tone in conjunction with the 'unsettling' effect,>
> > however makes this text even more powerful.  I strongly recommend it.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Janet Lucas
> > Social and Political Thought
> > York University
> > e-mail: [log in to unmask]
> > web: http://www.student.yorku.ca
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Norman Holland" <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 6:14 PM
> > Subject: Reality and literature
> >
> >
> >> From:
> >>        Linda Pilgrim <[log in to unmask]>
> >>
> >> 1:32 PM
> >>
> >>
> >> Off the top of your heads, can anyone suggest any writing on reality
> > (i.e.,
> >> discerning it, how characters figure have trouble with it or figuring out
> >> what it is, etc.) in literature or literary criticism?
> >>
> >> Linda Pilgrim
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date:    Mon, 24 Feb 2003 13:35:12 -0500
> > From:    Norman Holland <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Reality-testing in literature
> >
> > Hi, Linda Pilgrim!
> >
> > In answer to the query about reality-testing (vs. fantasy) in literature, I
> > have
> > an essay online part of which provides brain and psychoanalytic explanations
> > for
> > why we stop reality-testing when we are "rapt" or "absorbed" in a literary
> > experience. You can access the article at:
> >
> >       <http://www.clas.ufl.edu/ipsa/journal/2003/hollan06.htm>
> >
> >                       --Best, Norm
> > Norm Holland
> > [log in to unmask]
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date:    Mon, 24 Feb 2003 13:39:05 -0500
> > From:    Norman Holland <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Re: inquiry about impostors
> >
> > From:
> >      Walter Schönau <[log in to unmask]>
> >
> > 12:13 PM
> >
> >
> > Dear Andy,
> >
> > for literature about impostors see literature about Thomas Mann's novel The
> > Confessions of Felix Krull.
> >
> > Walter
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----------------------------------------------------
> > Walter Schönau
> > van Moerkerkenlaan 26
> > 9721 TB Groningen
> > 050-5268273
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date:    Mon, 24 Feb 2003 13:40:45 -0500
> > From:    Norman Holland <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Re: Fw: East of eden
> >
> > From:
> >      [log in to unmask]
> >
> > 10:25 AM
> >
> >
> > Dear Larry:
> >
> > Your comments on the shifts in the depictions of Cathy in  East of Eden
> > indicate that the film is an instance of the  betrayal of his source
> > (Steinbeck) by  Elia Kazan--who betrayed others as a witness to HUAC.
> >
> > There seems to be more than "anxiety of influence" in this relationship
> > between the two artists.
> >
> >
> > How does Steinbeck's depiction of Cathy correlate with the  depictions of
> > evil in other works? It seems to me that Of Mice and Men, and The Grapes of
> > Wrath, for example, express quite different attitudes toward evil in the
> > world than the innate evil you note in Cathy. Steinbeck did suggest that
> > the "left" values in Grapes came, to some degree,  from his wife
> >
> > And to return to your observations: Does Kazan "betray" his sources in
> > other films?
> >
> >
> > Best wishes,
> > Don
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --On Sun, Feb 23, 2003 6:07 PM -0500 Norman Holland <[log in to unmask]>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> From:
> >>        larry Lyons <[log in to unmask]>
> >>
> >> Sat 11:47 PM
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> There is no explicit depiction--that I recall-- of
> >>> callous righteousness
> >>> Adam's domination of  Cathy in the film.  But she is
> >>> not simply evil.  She
> >>> provides a loan to Cal for his beans, for example,
> >>> so he can help to
> >>> restore his father's losses on the lettuce shipping.
> >>>
> >>> Perhaps Adam had similar problems with expressions
> >>> of love from Cathy.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Best wishes,
> >>>
> >>> Someone who has read the book more recently may help
> >>> you more,
> >>>
> >>> Don Vanouse
> >>
> >> Hello Don:
> >> I just thought of something:  Wasn't Elia Kazan that
> >> jerk who betrayed his colleagues to HUAC?  That would
> >> explain why he would want to downplay Cathy's evil.
> >> She was neither intelligent, brave or hard working,
> >> yet she had become a successful businesswoman due
> >> purely to her lack of scruples.  By contrast, Adam was
> >> a hard-working, brave visionary whose business venture
> >> failed because of sheer bad luck.  Moreover, when he
> >> was offered the opportunity by Cal to start over, Adam
> >> refused, because to do so would require war
> >> profiteering.
> >>
> >> So.  On the one hand we have a capitalist who
> >> succeeded simply by doing evil.  On the other hand we
> >> have a capitalist who failed simply because he was
> >> honorable.  That's what was in the book.  Kazan
> >> wouldn't want some pinko com-symp situation like that
> >> to appear in his movie.  Therefore, the despicable
> >> sycophant rewrote Cathy Ames as a hooker with a heart
> >> of gold.
> >>
> >> Yours,
> >>             Larry
> >>
> >>
> >> __________________________________________________
> >> Do you Yahoo!?
> >> Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more
> >> http://taxes.yahoo.com/
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date:    Mon, 24 Feb 2003 15:05:35 -0500
> > From:    "Murray M.Schwartz" <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Fw: Reality and literature
> >
> > From: "gifford" <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: RE: Reality and literature
> >
> >
> > You could try virtually anything written by or on Lawrence Durrell.  Try
> > scanning a bibliography of critical resources here:
> >
> > http://www.lawrencedurrell.org/bibliog/gifford.htm
> >
> > Probably half the materials touch on the related themes of reality,
> > perception, knowledge, invention, etc...  Durrell's novel, _Monsieur_, is
> > one
> > of my favourite explorations of this topic.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > James
> >
> >> ===== Original Message From Institute for Psychological Study of the Arts
> > <[log in to unmask]> =====
> >> From:
> >>       "Emmett, Paul" <[log in to unmask]>
> >>
> >> Sun 9:37 PM
> >>
> >> Isn't discerning reality THE problem in much of literature? Hawthorne,
> >> Faulkner, Conrad, Poe, Robbe-Grillet, ...
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Norman Holland [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> >> Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 5:15 PM
> >> To: [log in to unmask]
> >> Subject: Reality and literature
> >>
> >> From:
> >>       Linda Pilgrim <[log in to unmask]>
> >>
> >> 1:32 PM
> >>
> >>
> >> Off the top of your heads, can anyone suggest any writing on reality
> >> (i.e.,
> >> discerning it, how characters figure have trouble with it or figuring
> >> out
> >> what it is, etc.) in literature or literary criticism?
> >>
> >> Linda Pilgrim
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date:    Mon, 24 Feb 2003 16:45:08 -0500
> > From:    "Murray M.Schwartz" <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Fw: Epistemology of modernism: Banfield, THE PHANTOM TABLE
> >
> > From: "Dianne Hunter" <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Epistemology of modernism: Banfield, THE PHANTOM TABLE
> >
> >
> > Linda Pilgrim:
> >
> > See Ann Banfield, THE PHANTOM TABLE: WOOLF, FRY, RUSSELL, AND EPISTEMOLOGY
> > OF MODERNISM (Cambridge UP, 2000).
> >
> > DH
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date:    Mon, 24 Feb 2003 17:03:32 -0500
> > From:    "Murray M.Schwartz" <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Fw: Reality and literature
> >
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> > From: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: Reality and literature
> >
> >
> > Dear Linda,
> > I am not sure what you mean by "reality", but in my Asian Cultures =
> > course, my students read Feng Jicai's _Three-Inch Golden Lotus_.  For us =>
> > it is a good literary medium to study characters who think they are =
> > following the so-called "the Confucian virtues" but do so by default, in =
> > other words, without connection to nature, hence they follow already =
> > distorted realities as real. =20
> > Another book that I can suggest is _Madame Bovary_. =20
> > Bon courage!
> > Keiko
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> > Golden=20
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> > Date:    Mon, 24 Feb 2003 20:10:30 -0500
> > From:    "Murray M.Schwartz" <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Fw: Reality and literature
> >
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> > From: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: Fw: Reality and literature
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 2/24/03 12:15:55 PM Pacific Standard Time, =
> > [log in to unmask] writes:=20
> >
> >> Off the top of your heads, can anyone suggest any writing on reality
> >> (i.e.,
> >> discerning it, how characters figure have trouble with it or figuring
> >> out
> >> what it is, etc.) in literature or literary criticism?
> >>
> >> Linda Pilgrim
> >
> >
> > In Ursula K. LeGuin's novel, The Lathe of Heaven, a scientist makes a =
> > device that causes another man's dreams (hypnotically suggested by the =
> > scientist) to become reality. It might not be directly related to your =
> > query, but read it anyway. It's tremendous.
> >
> > --Francis Cartier
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> > <DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: Fw: Reality and literature</DIV></DIV>
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> > FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">In a message dated 2/24/03 12:15:55 PM Pacific =
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> > TYPE=3D"CITE">&gt;Off the top of your heads, can anyone suggest any =
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> > reality<BR>&gt;(i.e.,<BR>&gt;discerning it, how characters figure have =
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> > with it or figuring<BR>&gt;out<BR>&gt;what it is, etc.) in literature =
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> > literary criticism?<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;Linda =
> > Pilgrim</BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>In Ursula=20
> > K. LeGuin's novel, The Lathe of Heaven, a scientist makes a device that =
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> > another man's dreams (hypnotically suggested by the scientist) to become =
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> > reality. It might not be directly related to your query, but read it =
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> > It's tremendous.<BR><BR>--Francis Cartier</FONT> </FONT></BODY></HTML>
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> > Date:    Mon, 24 Feb 2003 21:22:56 -0500
> > From:    "Murray M.Schwartz" <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Fw: Reality and literature
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> > From: "Katharine Streip" <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Re: Fw: Reality and literature
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> > A text crucial and fundamental for any study of characters investigating
> > reality must be Cervantes's  Don  Quixote.  Even Flaubert (think  of
> > Madame Bovary also) claims that Don Quixote is the book he "knew by
> > heart before he learned to read."
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> > Katharine Streip
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