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PSYART  October 2003, Week 5

PSYART October 2003, Week 5

Subject:

FW: Re: FW: Forensic Noir]

From:

Murray Schwartz <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Institute for Psychological Study of the Arts <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Thu, 30 Oct 2003 20:42:44 -0500

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        From: J R RAPER [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
        Subject: Re: Re: FW: Forensic Noir]

        Yes, Death Knowledge is a powerful force that few generally desire to face.

        But it may also be that in an age when things seem to be changing too
        rapidly or going to hell in a basket (and which age did not seem that way?),
        staring at an inert corpse while trying to figure out what happened and how
        it all went wrong just might give anxious individuals a false sense of
        control, mightn't it?  One could call this the "Poe complex" or
        syndrome--since the poet apparently felt more secure dealing with posthumous
        women than with those still breathing--and changing.
        His poems and stories, of course, have been around a bit longer than CSI, as
        have the Walking Dead or brykolaka of ancient Greece (including Homer).  Of
        course, when they walk they raise the anxiety level of the nervous: since
        they break the death containers Claire speaks of, are they under control or
        not?  At which point, laughter may be the best defense.  Do we let out a
        sort of squirming chuckle as we read Poe or watch one of the contemporary
        depictions of the dead who often appear so life-like?

        Jack

        ----- Original Message -----
        From: "Norman Holland" <[log in to unmask]>
        To: <[log in to unmask]>
        Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 11:38 AM
        Subject: [Fwd: Re: FW: Forensic Noir]


        > -------- Original Message --------
        > Subject:        Re: FW: Forensic Noir
        > Date:   Thu, 30 Oct 2003 09:52:33 -0500 (EST)
        > From:   Norman Rosenblood <[log in to unmask]>
        > To:     Institute for Psychological Study of the Arts
        <[log in to unmask]>
        >
        >
        >
        >  (114 lines) ------------------
        >
        >  Freud had a couple of interesting things to say about the theme of
        > eschatology in CIVILIZATION AND ITS DISCONTENTS:
        >
        > "In consequence of this primary mutual hostility of human beings,
        > civilized society is perpetually threatened with disintegration."
        >
        > or
        >
        > "If one were to yield to a first impression, one would say that
        > sublimation is a vicissitude which has been forced upon the instincts
        > entirely by civilization."
        >
        >
        > Kurt Eissler has a paper--"the Fall of Man" in the PSYCHOANALYTIC STUDY OF
        > THE CHILD--that spells it out even more graphically.
        > Hurray for the powers of denial and the best of all possible worlds.
        >
        > Norm Rosenblood
        >
        >
        >
        > -------------------------------------
        > On Wed, 29 Oct 2003, Murray Schwartz wrote:
        >
        > > > From:         Claire Kahane
        > > > Subject:      Re: Forensic Noir
        > > >
        > > > I think we are seeing evidence of the growing subliminal apprehension
        that
        > > > we are uncontrolledly driving our planet toward destruction; these
        > > > proliferating images of death could be an attempt to master the idea
        of
        > > > death through visual representations, i.e. to contain the fears by
        providing
        > > > images of death-containers, ie. Corpses.  Does this sound too far out?
        > > > Freud's death drive seem to be another way of formulating what Graham
        Clarke
        > > > is saying about the last taboo, the ultimate desublimation. Certainly
        21st
        > > > century politics seems to be driven by a destructive urgency toward
        > > > apocalypse. Scary stuff.
        > > >
        > > > -- Claire Kahane
        > > >
        > > >
        > > >
        > > > >       From: Graham Clarke [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
        > > > >       Subject: Re: FW: Forensic Noir
        > > > >
        > > > >       The British TV series 'Silent Witness' seems to me to have
        become
        > > > >       increasingly obsessed with realistic portrayals of autopsy and
        violent
        > > > >       death which, given that the focus is a team of forensic
        scientists, may
        > > > >       be fair enough but I suspect that the ante has been upped by
        the public
        > > > >       broadcast of the autopsy done by the physician who plastinates
        and
        > > > >       sculpts corpses.
        > > > >       In searching for his name using a search engine I discovered
        that HBO
        > > > >       have a programme that has:-
        > > > >       'An Actual Autopsy with Dr. Michael Baden and a Reexamination
        of
        > > > >       Autopsy's Most Complex Cases'
        > > > >       Some people said that after the repressive desublimation of
        sex in our
        > > > >       cultures during the last 40 years or so that the last taboo
        was death,
        > > > >       perhaps we are witnessing its (repressively desublimated)
        exploration?
        > > > >
        > > > >       Graham
        > > > >
        > > > >       Murray Schwartz wrote:
        > > > >>         From: Dianne Hunter [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
        > > > >>         Subject: Forensic Noir
        > > > >>
        > > > >>         I have been noticing with alarm our cultural preoccupation
        with dead
        > > > >>         bodies--the popular HBO series SIX FEET UNDER, plus all
        those TV
        > > > >> shows
        > > > >>         examining details of the corpses of crime victims.  There
        was
        > > > >> recently a
        > > > >>         CHRONICLE OF HIGHER EDUCATION article on the new genre
        called
        > > > >> "Forensic
        > > > >>         Noir," focused on autopsy. At the University of London
        CULTURE AND
        > > > >> THE
        > > > >>         UNCONSCIOUS conference last July, an artist self-described
        as a
        > > > >> victim of
        > > > >>         paternal physical abuse in childhood, presented art work
        consisting
        > > > >> of
        > > > >>         photographs of murder scenes the artist had imagined and
        staged with
        > > > >>         actors, props.
        > > > >>
        > > > >>         In the old TV show LAW AND ORDER, a crime scene sets off
        the first
        > > > >> half
        > > > >>         hour of the program, during which the police identify a
        suspect to
        > > > >> blame
        > > > >>         for the corpse; the show supplied narrative closure by
        staging a
        > > > >> trial in
        > > > >>         the second half hour of the program.  Now, in these more
        recent
        > > > >> shows, we
        > > > >>         are getting just the corpses.
        > > > >>
        > > > >>         DH
        > > > >>
        > > > >>
        > > > >>
        > > > >>
        > > > >
        > > > >
        > > > >
        > > >
        > > >
        > > >
        > >
        > >
        >
        >
        ============================================================================
        >
        > Norman Rosenblood, Ph.D., Training and Supervising Analyst
        > c/o Chester New Hall, McMaster University
        > 1200 Main Street West                   Telephone (905) 525-7601
        > Hamilton, Ontario, L8S 4L9
        > Canada
        >
        ============================================================================
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