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Re: Social capital and social networks?

From:

Jun Zhang <[log in to unmask]>

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Jun Zhang <[log in to unmask]>

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Fri, 21 Nov 2003 16:57:59 -0500

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*****  To join INSNA, visit http://www.sfu.ca/~insna/  *****

Valids,
Nothing personal here. Actually, from the past emails, I knew that you are
one of the most active and willing-to-help person in this list.  But you
know, for a newbie, a right pointer to the right article as
start-learning-point can help them a lot and save them a lot of time.
Actually,  for some of them, they even don't know the Soc web site is the
best site (just my thought) to study social network.  If they are new to
this area, how can they
know that it is the best without surveying a lot of "links" in google.
Google gives answers most of the time, but it still far from telling us
which link is the best answer.
Actually, by confirmed by you and others, that guy can know that Google's
first return and SOC site is a good start point to answer his questions in
ONE day. Should not you happy with that? That's the power of people, that's
the power of why we need build social network to get help.

Above all, sometimes an easy question for an expert is really a difficult
one for newbies.

Thanks,

Jun


----- Original Message -----
From: "Valdis Krebs" <[log in to unmask]>
To: "Jun Zhang" <[log in to unmask]>; <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 4:15 PM
Subject: Re: Social capital and social networks?


> I think most people enjoy helping others who help themselves... I know I
do.  A question like "I am interested in X, and have already read A, B, and
C -- what else is recommended?"  would bring many positive responses from
members of this list.
>
> Another great source for network newbies is the INSNA web site.  Bill
Richards has set up some great pages of links [by topic].  Guess what?  He
even has a page of SocCap links!
> -- http://www.sfu.ca/~insna/INSNA/Hot/soc_cap.htm
>
> I enjoy answering beginner's questions, as do others on this list, I just
don't like 'lazy questions'.
>
> Valdis
>
>
>
>
>
> ---- Jun Zhang <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > *****  To join INSNA, visit http://www.sfu.ca/~insna/  *****
> >
> >  Valdis,
> > I don't agree with you. Even Google can usually give us good results, I
> > still think the best resource for social network knowledge is "SOCNET"
email
> > list -- which NETWORKED most of well known social network
> > researchers...that's also how we increase the social capital of SOCNET,
> > isn't it (If I don't misunderstand the meaning of social capital).
> >
> > Of course, there will be a lot of negative issues we need to address,
such
> > as "elite members" might want to quit because of they are tired of
answering
> > too much simple questions. However, helping new comers who just start
their
> > research on SNA is also one purpose of this list and many old members
are
> > happy to do that, isn't it?
> >
> > Actually, one topic I always interesting in is that how we could use
Social
> > Network to help people share/find information. For people in academic,
> > sometimes it is really important to find the right people who do related
> > research in this area instead of a pdf file URL from Google. From the
author
> > of PDF to find that person is one solution, finding that people directly
> > from something like "SOCNET" is another. While Google is good at 1st.
SOCNET
> > is good at 2nd.
> >
> > So, while some people already complained that we rely too much on Google
> > these days, should we kill the 2nd options - which is emphasis the
> > importance of "Social Network" ourselves?
> >
> > Just my 2 cents,
> >
> >
> >
> > Best Regards,
> >
> >
> > Jun
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Valdis Krebs" <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 2:02 PM
> > Subject: Re: Social capital and social networks?
> >
> >
> > > *****  To join INSNA, visit http://www.sfu.ca/~insna/  *****
> > >
> > > It is amazing how smart people on this list do not know how to use
Google!
> > >
> > >
> >
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=social+capital+networ
> > k
> > >
> > > Read the first PDF Google finds.  Next, look up PageRank on Google to
know
> > why the first PDF Google found is a good suggestion.
> > >
> > > Valdis
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ---- Matej Cepl <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > > > *****  To join INSNA, visit http://www.sfu.ca/~insna/  *****
> > > >
> > > >         How does phenomenon of social capital fits into the study of
> > > >         social networks? What are the similarities, what are the
> > > >         differences? Can you suggest some good (and brief :-)
literature
> > > >         on this issue?
>
>

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