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Subject:

Fw: What is Jewish about psychoanalysis?

From:

"Murray M.Schwartz" <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Institute for Psychological Study of the Arts <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Fri, 13 Feb 2004 16:57:37 -0500

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From: "Dan Sapen" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: What is Jewish about psychoanalysis?


Thank you!  This is one of the neatest explanations I've read.  You also
find the quote I remember vaguely from 20 years ago, when my school brought
in a Jungian analyst from England to teach a senior seminar, and had to move
it from a lecture hall to the chapel in order to accommodate the swarm of
interested students and community people hungry for such a class.  We were
visited by a very elderly, glowing colleague of Jung's (Jacobi, Jaffe or Von
Franz - I can't remember!).This gave me a reading list running in parallel,
but underground, to my more mainstream studies.  The basic distortions and
misunderstandings of Jung and key ideas have been a topic of interest for
all this time.

Dan Sapen





On 2/13/04 11:50 AM, "Murray M.Schwartz" <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:

> From: "David Oswald" <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: What is Jewish about psychoanalysis?
>
> "Dianne Hunter" <[log in to unmask]> wrote on 2/13/2004, 10:51 AM:
>
>> As I understand the issue of Jung's schism: Jung put a spiritual drive in
>> place of sexual libido; Jung emphasized collective archetypes over
>> individualized psychic histories.
>
> This is a common misunderstanding about Jung's theory.  He did not write
> extensively about the importance of sexuality, in large part because
> he felt Freud had sufficiently pointed that out.  Jung always gave Freud
> credit for this, and fundamentally agreed with him to a large degree.
> But he felt Freud's view was one-sided, and Jung was trying to give
> adequate expression to the other pole of the psyche.
>
> In his autobiography for example, Jung writes, "It is a widespread error
> to imagine that I do not see the value of sexuality.  On the contrary,
> it plays a large part in my psychology, as an essential - although not
> the sole - expression of psychic wholeness. But my main concern has been
> to investigate, over and above its personal significance and biological
> function, its spiritual aspect and its numinous meaning, and thus to
> explain what Freud was so fascinated by but unable to grasp."
>
> This conflict and interplay between spirit and instinct is a driving
> force behind Jung's writings.  He frequently points out that although
> too much culture makes for sick animals, too much instinct makes the
> person of culture ill too. Instinctual drives are always reflected in
> the psyche via fantasies and images, and Jung's concept of archetypes as
> the hypothetical ordering principles behind these fantasies (and thus
> inseparably tied to the instincts) is a significant step towards freeing
> psychology from the assumption that everyone's psyche works the same.
> Any approach that hopes to get beyond the personal bias of one's
> subjective experience will be forced (I believe) to come up with some
> equivalent concept to the archetypes.
>
> Glad for the opportunity to clarify this!
>
> David

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