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[Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Re:[Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Music & Characters]]]]]

From:

Norman Holland <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Institute for Psychological Study of the Arts <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Sat, 13 Mar 2004 11:24:11 -0500

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-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re:[Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Music & Characters]]]]
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 23:06:58 -0500
From: Dan


(99 lines) ------------------
Thanks again, Alexander.  Although I have no problem with Kohut on many
counts, I find his writing on music to be very pedestrian.  Its quite a
bibliography on the site - it'll take some time to sort through it all!

Best -

Dan
[log in to unmask]

> From: Norman Holland <[log in to unmask]>
> Reply-To: Institute for Psychological Study of the Arts <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 17:24:01 -0500
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: [Fwd: Re:[Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Music & Characters]]]]
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re:[Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Music & Characters]]]
> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 10:21:30 -0500
> From: Alexander Stein <[log in to unmask]>
> To: Institute for Psychological Study of the Arts <[log in to unmask]>
> References: <[log in to unmask]>
>
> the study group on psychoanalysis and music, founded by dr. stuart feder who
> is
> recognized as the dean of the multidisciplinary field of music and
> psychoanalysis, has been meeting for some time to explore and articulate
> various
> facets of the intersection of music and mental life.  in addition to dr.
> feder,
> our members include other psychoanalysts with professional-level expertise in
> music.  we maintain a website -- the mind and music project -- which includes
> an
> extensive bibliography of scholarly works devoted to this spectrum of
> research.
> the address is http://www.mindandmusic.org/.  several of us contribute
> frequently to the literature (most but not all appearing in the psychoanalytic
> journals).  with apologies for the narcissism apparent in this suggestion, i
> have two new papers forthcoming which extend and clarify a number of the
> prevailing issues:  "Music and Trauma in Polanski's 'The Pianist'"  The
> International Journal of Psycho-Analysis 85(3) (in press) and "Music, Mourning
> and Consolation" Journal of the American Psychoanalytic Association  52(3) (in
> press).   for some foundational readings, i would recommend the two volumes of
> the  "Psychoanalytic Explorations in Music" series (Feder, S., Karmel, R.L.,
> Pollock, G., eds., 1990 and 1993, Madison: International Universities Press).
> i
> would also refer interested psyarters to selected other works by stuart feder
> as
> well as, in particular, pinchas noy and martin nass.  incidentally, the
> writings
> of kohut, referred to in an earlier posting, generally represent quite dated
> conceptualizations which are now given little credence.
>
> alexander stein, mssc psya
> 80 fifth avenue
> suite 901
> new york, new york 10011
> tel:  212.242.7126
> e/m:  [log in to unmask]  |  [log in to unmask]
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Norman Holland" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Wednesday, 10 March, 2004 5:55 PM
> Subject: [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Music & Characters]]]
>
>
> | -------- Original Message --------
> | Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Music & Characters]]
> | Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 09:02:36 -0600
> | From: Amy Bauer <[log in to unmask]>
> | To: Institute for Psychological Study of the Arts
> <[log in to unmask]
> |
> | >
> | >Fascinating.  Could be that music offers what I think of as a perfect
> | >abstraction - not bound to a specific referent, or object, but mobilizing
> | >primarily an experience of feeling, of personal association, in which any
> | >"programme" is secondary.  Isn't it compelling that, as a vehicle of
> meaning
> | >and feeling, music bypasses any familiar structures of sign, symbol or
> | >propositional logic?  I'm working on exploring music:
> | >   - against Habermas' idea of "ideal speech";
> | >
> | >  - as a Winnicott-ian "transitional field" in which a player or listener
> can
> | >manifest and destroy/revive/control a range of imaginal objects;
> | >
> | >  - as a special category of Bion's transformation from beta to alpha
> | >elements
> | >
> | >  - as a  selfobject, against Kohut's criteria.
> | >
> | >Does anyone have suggestions on these topics, or suggested readings?
> | >
> | >Dan Sapen
> |

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