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I hearby retract anything that offends John and apologize for
intrepreting weeks of angry messages and threats on this listserv as
upset over marketing. I helped John get speakers for an event in SF
and we sort of did it together, in the sense I asked Mark to join in.
ISNAE is most interested in "economic sociology" which, as members of
the list know, is concerned with the "social construction of
institutions" (Granovetter, Swedburg 2001 - p. 8). Our mission is much
different than KM Cluster, and I will not claim to know what KM Cluster's
missions. My impression, though it is just an opinion and I do not claim
that it is a fact, is that it is promoting various canned management fads
of the day.
I have no idea if John did the things he claims to have done.
I also apologize and retract the idea that John would be willing to
accept any responsibility for the spam mail, or that he would be willing
to work out the situation amiably. I was apparently wrong.
> From [log in to unmask] Thu Aug 19 08:55:17 2004
> I am deeply offended and hurt by you asinine and incoherent message on
> I demand an IMMEDIATE retraction and mutual support for our joint
> Your bald face lies and manipulation are offense. Denigrating the personal
> integrity of a colleague is the fast-track to oblivion.
> If you can't manage a mutually respectful process, than this effectively
> ends our relationship. I will go out of my way to make people wary of your
> rude and discourteous behavior as well as your incoherent style.
> Please CC: me on your full and thoughtful retraction to SocNet.
> For your information:
> You KNOW my professional career expertise is design, development and
> software quality assurance of large and very large network systems.
> You also know the events are Enterprise SNA, a narrow and specific branch of
> the discipline. Please retract your idiotic remarks or suffer the
> My academic credentials are in computer science.
> 99% of the backchannel communication was supportive of my efforts.
> Please don't suck-up on SocNet and its arrogant members. It is beneath you
> and sickening.
> You contribution to the SF event was worthless, you were a burden and big
> pain-in-the-a**. According to participants, your talk was the very worst,
> rambling and incoherent.
> I am not advertising anything. Get off you high horse. If you want to pick a
> fight then I will oblige you and prevail.
> I'm looking for the retraction today, or all bets are off.
> The person to contact is John Maloney: [log in to unmask]
> I think that the events he is advertising mostly are with Valdis
> Krebs. Valdis has been a long time valuable contributor to this list.
> might want to check with him. Valdis?
> I had the same thing happen. I helped John get some speakers for
> a talk in SF, my friends; Mark Granovetter and Andrew Hargadon. Stan
> Wasserman was there (hi Stan). By the time the event happened there was
> nuch upset over the marketing. John managed to alienate a good precentage
> of the most well know and respected members of the SNA community.
> Though I am not sure that promoting SNA classes based on InFlow is
> the best service to the community (I am developing general classes based on
> Pajek with Mark Granovetter and Andrew Parker so I am totally biased), I am
> sure that getting organizations to start thinking about and doing SNA will
> be a Good Thing. John takes personal financial risk doing these seminars.
> It is probably not his fault that the remove links do not work.
> He uses services and is not a software person at all. One thing that can
> happen is that the address that mail is sent to is different than the one
> that mail is from due to aliases and the program does not recognize the
> address to remove it.
> If you write [log in to unmask] with the mindset of working out
> the problem, assume that he will help you and realize it might take more
> than one attempt to get you off the list, I am sure that you will have a
> good experience and get off the list.
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