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From: Saundra Segan <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re:      Fw: [Fwd: Efficacy of Dynamic Treatment]
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That is not my experience in the office.
Saundrra Segan



----- Original Message -----
From: "Murray M.Schwartz" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 2:54 PM
Subject: Fw: [Fwd: Efficacy of Dynamic Treatment]


> From: "Chad Hagans" <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: [Fwd: Efficacy of Dynamic Treatment]
>
>
> I agree, but I think the kind of therapy that's defined as "successful"
> nowadays is one where the negative transference is repressed/suppressed
> in the service of a brief therapy with "a happy ending."
>
> CH
>
> From: "Saundra Segan" <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Fw: [Fwd: Efficacy of Dynamic Treatment (fwd)]
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>
> How can you have any therapy without what you call "positive" and
> "negative"
> feelings engaged.  I believe that is called transference.
> Saundra Segan
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Murray M.Schwartz" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2004 6:58 PM
> Subject: Fw: [Fwd: Efficacy of Dynamic Treatment (fwd)]
>
>
>> From: "Chad Hagans" <[log in to unmask]>
>> Subject: Re: [Fwd: Efficacy of Dynamic Treatment (fwd)]
>>
>>
>> To me this underscores the finding across all types of therapies that
>> the two strongest predictors of successful therapy are a belief that
> it
>> will work and a positive relationship between client and therapist.
> The
>> first is a placebo effect IMO, and the second I think is an artifact
> of
>> the average length of contemporary therapy and the definition of
>> "successful."
>>
>> I think therapy with a positive AND negative relationship between
>> therapist and client is more productive in terms of the more
>> comprehensive, long-term results sought by the kinds of therapists in
>> this group, and if we could design a study targeting those kinds of
>> results, I think we'd find dynamic therapies out in front by a good
>> margin.  Anyone know of a study like that?
>>
>> CH
>>
>>>>> [log in to unmask] 12/11/04 12:34 PM >>>
>> Hi, gang,
>>
>> I received this important notice from a psychologist friend.  I
>> have (I believe) included in the forward the article
>> itself--sorry if this slows your computer down.
>>
>>                         --Best,
>>
>>                                     Norm
>> Norm Holland
>> [log in to unmask]
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>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Given the interest that most of us have in Psychodynamic
>> psychotherapy I
>> thought people would appreciate this 'hot-off-the-press'
>> Meta-analysis on
>> dynamic treatment in comparison with other treatments and wait list
>> controls.  This study updates and extends the last mea-analysis
>> on this
>> issue, also with positive results, by Anderson & Lambert in 1995,
>> cited in
>> the current paper.  However, the current work was a little more
>> conservative
>> and rigorous in their inclusion criteria of studies.  Despite
>> these more
>> stringent criteria the results yielded large effects for Dynamic
>> treatment
>> in regard to wait list controls and NO differences between the
>> outcomes of
>> Psychodynamic and other forms of psychotherapy, including CBT.
>>
>> Another, perhaps more important, difference between this
>> meta-analysis and
>> the earlier work by Anderson & Lambert in 1995 is the venue.  The
>> current
>> study is published in Archives of General Psychiatry which is the
>> premier
>> research journal in psychiatry and received by everyone in the
>> American
>> Psychiatric Association.  Why this is so important is because, as
>> we all
>> know, it is primarily psychiatrists who make policy decision in
>> mental
>> health and the the fact this empirical review was published in their
>> flagship journal will do a lot to provide credibility to the findings
>> reported.  I imagine that this article will create a lot of
>> professional
>> buzz/discussion, especially in NON-Psychodynamic circles, in the
>> coming
>> year. I'm sure we all will be hearing a lot more about the
>> findings and
>> implications of this study in the months to come.
>>
>> Finally, it would probably be useful for all of our students to
>> have this as
>> a resource with regard to the empirical foundations of their primary
>> psychotherapy orientation.  Because as we also all realize, there
>> is quite a
>> bit of skepticism regarding the efficacy Psychodynamic interventions.
>>
>> Enjoy.
>>
>> M
>>
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