Good. I was not sure of that. Thanks for clarifying!
Elizabeth Worden, Director
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-----Original Message-----
From: Open Forum for Learning Assistance Professionals
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Dillon, Joan E
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 10:15 AM
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Subject: Re: FYI
I was agreeing with you.
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Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 9:56 AM
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Gentle People, Since this reply by Joan seems to be a direct response to
my posting, I will respond. Let me begin by saying that I fail to
comprehend how what I said could possibly be construed as having any
thing other than the law of the land as stated in the first amendment,
namely:
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of
religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the
freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people
peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress
of grievances."
Should anyone want to know the source of this direct quotation of the
first amendment, it is http://www.house.gov/Constitution/Amend.html.
As for my earlier paraphrase, the correct statement is: 'I disapprove of
what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it'. It
is apparently usually attributed to Voltaire, however may not have been
actually said by him. One discussion of its actual derivation is
available at http://www.quotationspage.com/quote/35374.html
Elizabeth Worden, Ph.D., Director
Academic Support Center
Eastern Maine Community College
354 Hogan Road
Bangor, ME 04401
phone: 207 974 4658
fax: 207 974 4641
website: www.emcc.edu/departments/asc/
-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 9:11 AM
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I apologize in advance to those I may offend, but why are some of us
"getting our knickers into such a twist over this"? I mean if you saw
one of his televised campaigns to push privitizing Social Security that
I viewed early one morning this week, you might agree with the opinion
of the afore mentioned writer and as his budget directly influences our
work, jobs, and lives, I'd say he's fair game for discussion and
opinion.
-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 9:00 AM
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Gentle People, Who was it that said something to the effect that whether
or not I agree with what a person is saying, I will defend to my death
their right to say it??? Last I knew, this country allowed free speech.
Has something changed here?
Elizabeth Worden, Director
Academic Support Center
Eastern Maine Community College
354 Hogan Road
Bangor, ME 04401
phone: 207 974 4658
fax: 207 974 4641
website: www.emcc.edu/departments/asc/
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Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 8:48 AM
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Personally, I am appalled that someone would have the audacity and the
disrespect to call the President of the United States an "idiot". That
lack of respect and the thoughts of disdain that fuel it are the
idicators of the shift that is harming the very fiber of our country.
I am removing my name from this listserv. I was unaware that this
group, which--or so I thought--was formed to help others, to uplift and
inspire. I am shocked at this type of correspondence. What a shame
that some would take advantage of this venue to vent political hatred!
Barbara N. Sherman, Director
Bruckner Learning Center
Liberty University
1971 University Blvd.
Lynchburg, VA 24502
(434) 582-2830
BLC Components: Study Skills Courses (CLST), Developmental Math,
Tutoring/Testing Center (T/TC), Office of Disability Academic Support
(ODAS), Center for Professional and Continuing Education (CPCE)
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Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 2:36 PM
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I apologize. I did not intend for my comments to be distributed to the
entire listserv. Again my apologies. I did not mean to offend anyone
and agree that it would be unprofessional to solicit my individual
opinion to everyone.
At 12:57 PM 2/7/2005, you wrote:
>I think everyone in a democracy is "qualified" to critique the
>president. Perhaps we should refrain from openly calling him an
>"idiot", but how can we avoid being political in a higher ed listserv
>when programs like the Perkins loan program, Upward Bound and Talent
>Search will be toast because of the president's beliefs?
>
>Virginia Reiner
>Director of the Academic Skills Center
>College of Saint Elizabeth
>2 Convent Road
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>Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 1:48 PM
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>
>Once again,
>
>Is it really important that you put your political beliefs on an open
>educational forum? While you may be qualified to critique the
>President, I am not concerned with talking/reading/discussing politics
>on this forum.
>If
>that is the case, then please remove my name from this list.
>
>Thank you.
>
>
>
>William C. Roark
>Learning Specialist
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>Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 12:26 PM
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>when you read through a transcript of an interview with Bush it becomes
>so evident that he truly is an idiot!
>
>At 08:18 AM 2/4/2005, you wrote:
> > Listserv members may be interested in the President's comments on
> > his personal reading habits, as discussed in his interview with
> > Brian Lamb on
>C-Span,
> > January 30.
> >
> > Excerpts are at http://hnn.us/articles/9934.html
> >
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