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FLORIDABIRDS-L  September 2007, Week 3

FLORIDABIRDS-L September 2007, Week 3

Subject:

Re: Birds and weather over Florida

From:

David La Puma <[log in to unmask]>

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David La Puma <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Thu, 20 Sep 2007 06:44:39 -0400

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Bob et al.
You're right, birds do need to be in the air first, and on that note, when
they are, and weather shuts them down, it's usually apparent on the radar
(in fact, I think it's the best remotely sensed predictor of fallout
conditions). The area you birded has had thunderstorms over the last three
nights, and hasn't shown significant migration (on the radar, at least)
since the morning of the 16th. You make another excellent point, and one
that I was just talking about yesterday, with Sid Gauthreaux from the
Clemson Radar Ornithology lab (http://virtual.clemson.edu/groups/birdrad/).
You saw shorebirds! Shorebirds, as you know, are strong fliers and will
likely migrate in less-than-optimal conditions AND be less prone to shifting
by winds AND (in some species especially) will migrate during the day so may
be underestimated by radar alone. When looking at the radar it's important
to remember that what we're seeing is a mix of ALL birds that are migrating
at night (waders, rails, shorebirds, passerines, owls, and even a few
raptors). That has to be taken into consideration when heading out in the
morning to look for birds. The other point that Sid was making yesterday, is
that small passerines (warblers, etc.) will likely be the ones most
displaced by strong winds- so that when you do see strong directional flow
on the radar (like birds being blown to the coast, for instance) the result
is usually a good mix of birds that birders are "expecting" during
migration. This topic is fascinating- and one that is only just being
explored using radar and ground-truthing. I really hope you will all
consider contributing your observations to the comments section of
badbirdz-reloaded (http://badbirdz2.wordpress.com) so that we can begin to
correlate the images with actual conditions in the field.

Good birding- and thanks again to Bob for posting his observations and
posing a great question.

David


On 9/19/07, Robert Wallace <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> David - with the hope that the rains from Tue night and Wed morning would
> indeed cause a fallout along the east coast, I hit a number of parks/migrant
> traps in Volusia County today - Tomoka SP, Riverbend Park, Central Park, and
> Deleon Springs, with the grand total of 1 Redstart and 1 Red-eyed Vireo at
> each location, plus 1 Parula, 2 Ovenbirds,  1 Bt Blue Warbler, 1
> Yellow-throated Warbler and a Scarlet Tanager thrown in.  Not exactly a
> banner fallout.  The constant rains all day I am sure limited activity -
> there was little sign of any bird life.  All of the numbers and species seen
> the last 2 days at Fort George and Timucuan, which I thought would be
> indicative of activity today, were non-existant.  The only significant
> numbers of migrants were shorebirds, at the Flagler Sod Fields off SR 100,
> and the sod fields off Pioneer Trail in New Smyrna Beach - where there were
> Killdeer, quite a few Black-bellied Plovers, Lesser Yellowlegs, 1 Golden
> Plover (at Flagler), some Pectorals, Leasts, and 1 Bairds Sandpiper (at
> Pioneer).  Pretty slim pickings overall.
>
> It is my opinion that heavy precipitation is not necessarily a good
> indicator of passerine fallout - the birds need to be in the air first
> (certainly shorebirds are easier to find in the open fields).  The birds
> seen at Ft George were moving south with the cold front, and put down when
> they first encountered the rain of this system.  After 2 days of rain, there
> were no new birds moving in, at least at Daytona today.  So why did Miami
> have such a great fallout?  What weather precipitated that?
>
> I would appreciate hearing other's opinions as to precursors to predicting
> a good fallout during fall migration. Can you look at Sunday and Monday's
> flights on the NE coast, and see them in the air first?
>
> Glad to be home and dry,
> Bob Wallace
> Alachua
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: David La Puma <[log in to unmask]<[log in to unmask]" target="_blank">https://mail.google.com/mail?view=cm&tf=0&[log in to unmask]>
> >
> To: [log in to unmask]<[log in to unmask]" target="_blank">https://mail.google.com/mail?view=cm&tf=0&[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 9:19:37 PM
> Subject: [FLBIRDS] Birds and weather over Florida
>
> The low pressure system causing all the precipitation and variable winds
> across the state could mean good birding conditions for some locations.
> The
> Jacksonville radar was showing heavy migration just after sunset, but the
> flow of birds is currently being shut down by heavy showers and
> thunderstorms. This could lead to local fallout conditions wherever the
> heavy precipitation is taking place. The panhandle shows birds launching
> into the Gulf, while the west coast radar is showing birds moving south
> along the coast. Over southeast Florida, where winds are out of the
> northwest, birds are moving at lower densities, yet toward the east coast,
> which usually means good birding conditions for east coast migrant traps
> as
> birds overshoot the coast and have to correct themselves come morning.
> It's
> still very early in the night, so check the radar loop in the AM to see
> how
> it all plays out.
>
> Good Birding
>
> David
>
> http://badbirdz2.wordpress.com
>
> --
> ____________________________________________________
> David A. La Puma
> Ph.D. Candidate
> Dept. of Ecology, Evolution, & Natural Resources
> Plant Physiology Building
> 1 College Farm Road
> Rutgers University
> New Brunswick, NJ  08901-1582
>
> "most policies are really questions masquerading as answers"  (L.
> Gunderson)
>
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>
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>
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Ph.D. Candidate
Dept. of Ecology, Evolution, & Natural Resources
Plant Physiology Building
1 College Farm Road
Rutgers University
New Brunswick, NJ  08901-1582

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