Subject: Re: U.S. Push for Free Online Courses : Community colleges and high schools would receive federal funds From: Noreen Light <[log in to unmask]> Reply-To: Open Forum for Learning Assistance Professionals <[log in to unmask]> Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 11:59:33 -0700 Content-Type: text/plain Parts/Attachments: text/plain (337 lines) Further food for thought: Technology Solutions for Developmental Math: An overview of current and emerging practices. (2009) This short (24 page) report begins with these statements: "Many experts in the world of mathematics and beyond contend that we cannot meet our developmental math student success goals without incorporating technology. The implementation of innovative technology in program design and practice, as reviewed in this report, provides us with an initial look at how technology can be used to expand, strengthen, and create efficiencies in the delivery of developmental math practice." (http://www.gatesfoundation.org/learning/Documents/technology-solutions-for-developmental-math-jan-2009.pdf ) Noreen Light Faculty Development Coordinator Washington State Board for Community and Technical Colleges 360.704.4345 [log in to unmask] -----Original Message----- From: Kathryn Schrader [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 4:25 AM Subject: Re: U.S. Push for Free Online Courses : Community colleges and high schools would receive federal funds Thanks Frank--I truly appreciate your thoughts on the matter and will pass it along to "the powers that be". I think you may very well be right about the questioning; in fact, I doubt that our Dept. Chair is asking any questions at all. I'm an ole pot stirrer from way back, and I think it's time I get out my spoon :-) Kathryn J. Schrader Tutoring & SI Supervisor Muskegon Community College 221 S. Quarterline Rd. Muskegon, MI 49442 231-777-0393 fax:231-777-0624 -----Original Message----- From: Open Forum for Learning Assistance Professionals [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Frank Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 2:48 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: U.S. Push for Free Online Courses : Community colleges and high schools would receive federal funds To Kathryn S. and others interested in student success in online courses. It seems to me that most college and university learning centers and/or developmental education programs do not get involved in distance education as academic support services. Learning Centers and developmental programs might ask themselves questions like the following:        Are we partnering with distance education by offering our services to help design orientation courses and/or workshops for their students who need preparation for successful completion of online courses?        Are we current in the literature that focuses on helping online students prepare for and succeed in online courses?       Has our staff experienced online courses as students to understand the technology competencies and learning assistance strategies required to be academically successful? BTW, LSCHE has many useful resources to view especially "Promising Practices for Online Student Learning Support" at http://www.pvc.maricopa.edu/~lsche/resources/otl_guidelines.bestpractice s_flc.htm Collegially........................ [log in to unmask] "In times of change, learners inherit the Frank L Christ earth, while the learned find themselves Emeritus, CSULB beautifully equipped to deal with a                                               world that no longer exists".. Eric Hoffer LSCHE Web site: http://www.pvc.maricopa.edu/~lsche/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathryn Schrader" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 9:29 AM Subject: Re: U.S. Push for Free Online Courses : Community colleges and high schools would receive federal funds > It sounds wonderful; however, many of our students who would be in need > of foundational literacy type courses have neither the computer skills > nor the motivation to be successful in an online environment. How will > we weed them out? Or do we merely do them the disservice of setting > them up for failure? I guess I'm just ole school because I still > believe that a warm, breathing and in your face human is the way most > first year community college students develop good learning skills. > Please don't anyone read this as an apology---'cause it's not. > > Kathryn J. Schrader > Tutoring & SI Supervisor > Muskegon Community College > 221 S. Quarterline Rd. > Muskegon, MI 49442 > 231-777-0393 > fax:231-777-0624 > -----Original Message----- > From: Open Forum for Learning Assistance Professionals > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of William W. Ziegler > Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 11:13 AM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: U.S. Push for Free Online Courses : Community colleges and > high schools would receive federal funds > > Design and oversight are crucial, but if these are handled properly, > there's no reason for online courses to be less effective than > conventional ones. Potential for abuse exists with any mode of delivery. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Open Forum for Learning Assistance Professionals > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Stephen Ewen > Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 10:54 AM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: U.S. Push for Free Online Courses : Community colleges and > high schools would receive federal funds > > I'm not a huge fan of purely online undergraduate courses. For > especially > first-year foundational literacy courses, including college level > English, I > have seen more damage than good come from them. > > Stephen Ewen, M.Ed. > > On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 10:24 AM, William W. Ziegler > <[log in to unmask]>wrote: > >> Come again?? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Open Forum for Learning Assistance Professionals >> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Alan Stern >> Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 10:09 AM >> To: [log in to unmask] >> Subject: Re: U.S. Push for Free Online Courses : Community colleges > and >> high schools would receive federal funds >> >> So, it looks like your tax dollars will be used to create competition >> for >> you! >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Open Forum for Learning Assistance Professionals >> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Dan Kern >> Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 8:59 AM >> To: [log in to unmask] >> Subject: U.S. Push for Free Online Courses : Community colleges and > high >> schools would receive federal funds >> >> U.S. Push for Free Online Courses >> >> June 29, 2009 >> >> Bottom of Form >> >> >> >> WASHINGTON -- Community colleges and high schools would receive > federal >> funds to create free, online courses in a program that is in the final >> stages of being drafted by the Obama administration. >> >> The program is part of a series of efforts to help community colleges >> reach >> more students and to link basic skills education to job training. The >> proposals are outlined in administration discussion drafts obtained by >> Inside Higher Ed. A formal announcement could come in the next few >> weeks. In >> addition to the free online courses, the plan would provide $9 billion >> over >> 10 years to help community colleges develop and improve programs > related >> to >> preparing students for good jobs, and a $10 billion loan fund (at low > or >> no >> interest) for community college facilities. >> >> John White, press secretary for the Education Department, said Sunday >> that >> the department would discuss the plans "when the time is right." He > said >> that there is a lot of "high level discussion and excitement" around >> these >> ideas related to community colleges. >> >> The funds envisioned for open courses -- $50 million a year -- may be >> small >> in comparison to the other ideas being discussed. But in proposing > that >> the >> federal government pay for (and own) courses that would be free for > all, >> as >> well as setting up a system to assess learning in those courses, and >> creating a "National Skills College" to coordinate these efforts, the >> plan >> could be significant far beyond its dollars. >> >> The draft language suggests that the administration is throwing its >> weight >> behind the movement to put more courses online -- and offer them free > -- >> and >> is also pushing that movement in the direction of community colleges. >> >> Continue reading print version: >> http://www.insidehighered.com/layout/set/print/news/2009/06/29/ccplan >> >> Rootage: http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2009/06/29/ccplan >> >> Blurb: If this program provided more skills training and education to >> even >> a small percentage of those leaving high school without a diploma or >> those >> who have no college education, he said, the impact on the individuals >> and >> the economy could be huge. "I couldn't think of a more important > target >> than >> high schools and community colleges for open courses," he said. >> >> According to the draft materials from the administration, the program >> would >> support the development of 20-25 "high quality" courses a year, with a >> mix >> of high school and community college courses. Initial preference would >> go to >> "career oriented" courses. The courses would be owned by the > government >> and >> would be free for anyone to take. Courses would be selected >> competitively, >> through peer review, for support. And the courses would be "modular" > or >> "object based" such that they would be "interoperable" and could be >> offered >> with a variety of technology platforms. >> >> Under the plan, the government would also support a "National Skills >> College" at a community college that would, among other things, work > to >> develop examinations that could be given at the end of the courses so >> that >> colleges, employers and students could judge how much learning had > taken >> place. Course developers would be asked to consult with colleges on >> standards, so that the offerings could be created with the goal of >> having >> credit transferred to many institutions. And the National Skills > College >> would work to promote programs that might mix the free courses with >> tuition >> courses so students could earn degrees at lower cost. >> >> While the program is described as one that emphasizes community > colleges >> and >> high schools, it would be open to public agencies and to private >> for-profit >> or nonprofit groups. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Dan Kern >> >> AD21, Reading >> >> East Central College >> >> 1964 Prairie Dell Road >> >> Union, MO 63084-4344 >> >> Phone: (636) 583-5195 >> >> Extension: 2426 >> >> Fax: (636) 584-0513 >> >> Email: [log in to unmask] >> >> >> >> Instruction begins when you, the teacher, learn from the learner. Put >> >> yourself in his place so that you may understand what he learns and >> >> the way he understands it. (Kierkegaard) >> >> >> >> To freely bloom - that is my definition of success. -Gerry Spence, >> lawyer >> (b. 1929) [Benjamin would be proud, I think.] >> >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To access the LRNASST-L archives or User Guide, or to change your subscription options (including subscribe/unsubscribe), point your web browser to http://www.lists.ufl.edu/archives/lrnasst-l.html To contact the LRNASST-L owner, email [log in to unmask] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To access the LRNASST-L archives or User Guide, or to change your subscription options (including subscribe/unsubscribe), point your web browser to http://www.lists.ufl.edu/archives/lrnasst-l.html To contact the LRNASST-L owner, email [log in to unmask]

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