Hi Larry,
quite fascinating! There must be something wrong with me: I love Dracula 
(Stoker's and Coppola's) but the only vampire film I really enjoyed was 
Polanski's Fearless Vampire Killers. Because of the irony. I just can't take 
them seriously!
Best regards,
Solange


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "larry Lyons" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 12:14 AM
Subject: Re: Vampire popularity


> Hi Solange,
> I have a woman friend who is a big Twilght fan.  She is in her early 
> forties and is college educated.  I contacted her on instant messenger 
> asking her to tell me why she liked the vampire stories so the PSYARTers 
> could analyze the phenomenom.  She loves talking about "Twilight," so she 
> agreed.  Following is her response.  I didn't bother to correct the 
> spelling errors because they are revealing in themselves.
>
> "yes...very Romeo and Juliet but it also goes deeper and darker and there 
> is a love triangle in there too....
>
> a faithful, undying attraction that you wish you could have...a vampire 
> that only is consumed in a twist to want to kill you but loves you that he 
> would rather die than ever hurt you...denying yourself for the love of 
> your life...
>
> but that love loves you back Unconditionally! !
>
> and can't live without you.
>
> in New Moon...she would rather die than seeing Edward be killed by the 
> Voulturi...
>
> the human to die in place of the un- dead
>
> she loves him that much.
>
> and he so much more her
>
> sorry...blabbing
>
> (I told her that's what I was hoping for!)
>
>
> when I first read the book I cried. It was so innocent and here is a young 
> man...vampire, that never sleeps that is torchoured by his curse that it 
> takes over 80 years to meet the one whos blood sings to him...very 
> romantic and unconditional. Innocent love of a vampire that could kill her 
> in a heartbeat from his strength and the restraighnt he has to have NOT to 
> hurt her from this ravounous LOVE he has for her..
>
> makes you want a vampire that is all consumed with this undying love for 
> you and he thinks nothing for himself and only her
>
>
> a vampire boyfriend is so protective and WON'T let anything or anyone ever 
> hurt their love desire...
>
> makes you feel so special and wanted...
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ReplyReply AllMove...
>
> --- On Fri, 2/26/10, Solange Leibovici <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> From: Solange Leibovici <[log in to unmask]>
>> Subject: Re: Vampire popularity
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Date: Friday, February 26, 2010, 6:31 AM
>>
>>
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>>
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>>
>> Dear
>> psyarters,
>> there is also an
>> interesting social and historical
>> aspect in the story of Dracula and his followers, the
>> contemporary vampires.
>> During the last two decades of the 19th century, large
>> groups of immigrants
>> arrived in Engeland and most of them tried
>> to build a new life in
>> London. This invasion changed the city in a melting
>> pot of
>> nationalities and new ethnic groups, who were feared
>> by the respectable
>> bourgeois Londoners. Among them were
>> about 200.000 jews who
>> had fled persecutions in Eastern Europe. They
>> tried to make a living
>> as traders and owners of small shops in a period which
>> soon would be
>> recognized to be one of economic decay. They had
>> their own culture,
>> religion and language and were often experienced as a
>> serious threat for
>> the English way of life. It was even believed for some time
>> that Jack the Ripper
>> was a jew. Dracula is also a stranger from Eastern Europe
>> who wants to take
>> over, corrupt and eventually destroy Victorian
>> England, like antisemitic
>> sterotypes wanted people to believe at that
>> time.
>> And now the vampire
>> makes a new appearance
>> in a world that once again lives in the fear of the
>> other, of islam and
>> terrorism, in a time of economic depression.
>>
>> Can it be a coincidence?
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Solange
>> [log in to unmask]
>>
>>
>>   ----- Original Message
>> ----- 
>>   From:
>>   Norman
>>   Holland
>>   To: [log in to unmask]
>>
>>   Sent: Friday,
>> February 26, 2010 1:48
>>   AM
>>   Subject: Vampire
>> popularity
>>
>> True, Claire. I would not expect patients to be
>> able to
>>   tell me the cause of the difficulties that bring them to
>> therapy. But I
>>   would expect their answer to be a free association that
>> would tell me
>>   something about the cause. Thus, the teenager's
>> response that the
>>   Twilight movie and novels are like Romeo and
>> Juliet, and she did
>>   amplify. Pretty clearly, the girls (and the line
>> was all female) are
>>   enjoying sex-but-no-sex. From what I know of the
>> series the male vampire
>>   wants some sort of consummation but holds off out of love
>> for the un-vampire
>>   girl. Sounds like the issues in a lot of teenage
>> sex to me. Ideas
>>   about some global crisis seem, by contrast,
>>   speculative.
>>
>>
>>
>>   --With warm
>>   regards,
>>
>>
>>
>>   Norm
>> Norm Holland
>>
>>
>>
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