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PSYART June 2010, Week 3

Subject:

Re: Othello as melodrama?

From:

Norm Rosenblood <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Discussion Group for Psychology and the Arts <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Fri, 18 Jun 2010 01:09:36 -0400

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  There is nothing melodramatic about Othello's handkerchief.

It is a very complex and rich symbol indicating The Bard's amazing insight
into the psychological nature of a son-daughter-wife relationship.

Norm Rosenblood













Norman Rosenblood, Ph.D., Training and Supervising Psychoanalyst
Co-director, Hamilton Centre for Psychoanalysis
8 Mayfair Place
Hamilton, Ontario
L8S 4G1

On Wed, 16 Jun 2010, elizabeth fox wrote:

> Thanks to John, Burt, Julie, and Aleksandar--
>
> I'm embarrassed that I didn't google the topic myself but grateful for
> all the information.
>
> Now I've got Shaw, Bradley, and Orson Welles-- very useful!  I wonder
> whether you (any of you)
> agree about the play's melodrama.  Of course Verdi had a thing about
> father-daughter plots, but Rossini
> did Othello first as an opera, I believe.  Yes; google confirms it.
>
> Best,
> Betsy
>
> On Jun 16, 2010, at 4:48 PM, Burton Melnick wrote:
>
> > --Apple-Mail-20--86110127
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> > Content-Type: text/plain;
> > 	charset=windows-1252
> >
> > Hi, Betsy.  I'm no Shakespearean, but I googled "Othello
> > melodramatic" =
> > and came up with this:
> >
> > [Othello] is pure melodrama. There is not a touch of character in it =
> > that goes below the skin and the fitful attempts to make Iago
> > something =
> > better than a melodramatic villain only make a hopeless mess of him
> > and =
> > his motives. To anyone capable of reading this play with an open
> > mind as =
> > to its merits, it is obvious that Shakespeare plunged through it so =
> > impetuously that he had it finished before he had made up his mind
> > as to =
> > the character and motives of a single person in it.=20
> > =96 George Bernard Shaw, 1897
> >
> > Also, there's a lot of stuff about individual productions and =
> > performances being "melodramatic."
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> >
> > All best,
> > Burt Melnick
> >
> >
> > Le 16 juin 2010 =E0 18:56, elizabeth fox a =E9crit :
> >
> >> Greetings Shakespeareans and others--
> >> =20
> >> Does anyone remember who described _Othello_ as melodramatic?  I'd
> >> be =
> > grateful for any leads.
> >> =20
> >> Thanks--
> >> =20
> >> Elizabeth Fox
> >
> >
> > --Apple-Mail-20--86110127
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> > Content-Type: text/html;
> > 	charset=windows-1252
> >
> > <html><head></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
> > -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;
> > "><font =
> > class=3D"Apple-style-span" size=3D"5"><span class=3D"Apple-style-
> > span" =
> > style=3D"font-size: 18px;">Hi, Betsy. &nbsp;I'm no Shakespearean,
> > but I =
> > googled "Othello melodramatic" and came up with =
> > this:</span></font><div><font class=3D"Apple-style-span"
> > size=3D"5"><span =
> > class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-size: =
> > 18px;"><br></span></font></div><div><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
> > style=3D"font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); =
> > font-size: 21px; "><div style=3D"color: rgb(68, 68, 68); margin-top: =
> > 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;
> > "><font =
> > class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Geneva"><font =
> > class=3D"Apple-style-span" size=3D"5"><span class=3D"Apple-style-
> > span" =
> > style=3D"font-size: 18px;">[Othello]&nbsp;is pure melodrama. There
> > is =
> > not a touch of character in it that goes below the skin and the
> > fitful =
> > attempts to make Iago something better than a melodramatic villain
> > only =
> > make a hopeless mess of him and his motives. To anyone capable of =
> > reading this play with an open mind as to its merits, it is obvious
> > that =
> > Shakespeare plunged through it so impetuously that he had it
> > finished =
> > before he had made up his mind as to the character and motives of a =
> > single person in it.&nbsp;</span></font></font></div><p
> > style=3D"color: =
> > rgb(68, 68, 68); margin-top: 2px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: =
> > 10px; margin-left: 15px; "><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
> > face=3D"Geneva"><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" size=3D"5"><span =
> > class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-size: 18px;">=96 George
> > Bernard =
> > Shaw, 1897</span></font></font></p><div><font class=3D"Apple-style-
> > span" =
> > size=3D"5"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-size: =
> > 18px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
> > size=3D"5"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-size: =
> > 18px;">Also, there's a lot of stuff about individual productions and =
> > performances being "melodramatic."</span></font></div><div><font =
> > class=3D"Apple-style-span" size=3D"5"><span class=3D"Apple-style-
> > span" =
> > style=3D"font-size: 18px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font =
> > class=3D"Apple-style-span" size=3D"5"><span class=3D"Apple-style-
> > span" =
> > style=3D"font-size: 18px;">Hope this =
> > helps.</span></font></div><div><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
> > size=3D"5"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-size: =
> > 18px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
> > size=3D"5"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-size: =
> > 18px;">All best,</span></font></div><div><font class=3D"Apple-style-
> > span" =
> > size=3D"5"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-size: =
> > 18px;">Burt =
> > Melnick</span></font></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></
> > span><div><div>=
> > Le 16 juin 2010 =E0 18:56, elizabeth fox a =E9crit :</div><br =
> > class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote =
> > type=3D"cite"><div>Greetings Shakespeareans and others--<br><br>Does =
> > anyone remember who described _Othello_ as melodramatic? &nbsp;I'd
> > be =
> > grateful for any leads.<br><br>Thanks--<br><br>Elizabeth =
> > Fox<br></div></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>=
> >
> > --Apple-Mail-20--86110127--
>

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