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Martina,

It makes no sense to criticize physicists based on the list of citations
in my article, which is not written by any physicists. That's a straw
man.

If anyone wishes to single out one group as any more guilty than the
other, we have people on this mailing list with both the scientific
expertise and data to research pretty well whether or not they are
especially deserving of blame.

My other points below also remain, but people can read them and agree or
not. I do, however, think that we can pick any person on this list and
find articles by them that miss citations that we think they should have
cited but that they didn't cite because they didn't know about. I see no
need to bring up what anyone did or did not learn in graduate school. And
I also think it's counterproductive to direct blame at a specific group of
people (and I believe that whether or not such blame is merited!).

Also, I have exchanged private e-mails with Jamie, and I believe that he
and I are in accord and on good terms.

Have a good day,

Mason




On Sun, 26 Feb 2012, Martina Morris wrote:

> Just a quick comment on the mea culpa.
>
> It's surely possible, and indeed necessary if you're writing a review paper
> of this type, to follow the citation links to/from the literature you're
> reviewing. We learn that in graduate school. All of the papers that Jamie
> mentioned are easily found using standard citation search tools.
>
> The physicists *do* know about this literature, and do not cite it. Why they
> don't is a matter for speculation, but the fact that they don't is a simple
> fact, and a valid criticism.
>
> Martina
>

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