From:
        "Wendy" <[log in to unmask]>

Fri 5:53 PM

Re: the animal's throat has to be cut very quickly, with one stroke
>so it doesn't feel pain.

I don't think so, and I also think the Moral Philosopher Peter Singer would
have something to say about this, an organism with a fully developed nervous
system can generally feel pain.  As a nurse who had to administer
injections, sure swiftness was a skill, but the fear of the patient played a
part. Muscle tension caused by fear meant pain.  Animals feel fear [and in
the context of the present discussion fear ?has an odour] add to this the
slow bleeding to death of the animal .... whilst this isn't the issue under
discussion I think it should be noted.
Wendy

-----Original Message-----
From: Norman Holland <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
Date: 05 November 1999 22:20
Subject: Re: lifeline/lifespan of email lists/email psyche


>From:
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>Thu 8:38 PM
>
>> Thanks for all of the suggestions and comments about odors in early
>>  19th century in Amsterdam. A friend here suggested the odor might
>>  come from the kosher lamp oil (whale?) in the synagoge
>
>Olive oil. The instructions on what kind of oil to use are in Exodus
>27.20-21.
>
>Also (1) Not too easy to get whale oil in the Sinai desert.  (2) In kosher
>butchering, the animal's throat has to be cut very quickly, with one stroke
>so it doesn't feel pain. Not too easy to do with a whale. (3) In any case,
>whales, like pigs and shellfish, are regarded as animals not to be eaten.
The
>only things that can be eaten out of the sea are "whatsoever hath fins and
>scales" (Leviticus 11.9).
>
>In short, kosher whale oil is an oxymoron.
>
>pat sloane