I just wish that the "Math Education" people, who ultimately make the decisions on how best to teach pre-college students, would listen to "Mathematicians" who know what level of math understanding is necessary for students to succeed in math, science, and engineering degrees. Yes students need to do some memorization, know how to manipulate formula (which really means they need to know how to use algebra). The claim that the "drill and kill" method doesn't work is weak. It doesn't work for some, but it worked far better for more students than the current system which relies heavily on calculators and concepts. Learning math takes work, you just can't remove that requirement. Remember this when the quality of your cars, buildings, and bridges are falling apart in five to ten years. Eric Kaljumagi wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Gary K. Probst <[log in to unmask]> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2000 5:02 AM > Subject: Re: Why I use CL responses - Garyh Probst comments > > > The approach you describe appears to have attributes of the new-new > math > > program used in some public schools called "fuzzy math." Reports on > these > > web sites give the results of "fuzzy math" programs throughout the > nation > > during the past ten years. > > > > http://www.mathematicallycorrect.com > > http://www.eagleforum.org/educate/1999/oct99/math.html > > http://www.tppf.org/ecot.html > > > > These web sites document the educational, political and litigation > problems > > produced by fuzzy math. A web search using "fuzzy math instruction" > will > > find over 2000 web sites describing students' problems and > repercussions of > > this approach to math. > > For the other side of the coin, try http://www.cpm.org/articles/ > Prof. Eric Kaljumagi > LAC/Math > Mt. San Antonio College -- Craig Andres Director, Study Abroad and Tutor Program Kettering University (Continuing the GMI heritage) email: [log in to unmask] Phone: (810)-762-9642 Fax: (810)-762-9505 "We must look forward to the future as that is where most of us will be spending the rest of our lives." Charles Kettering.