For the record, Gary didn't dodge--his father was dead and he was
the only son, the first in his family to ever go to college. He chose
to go to college because his high school teachers convinced him
he was smart enough to get out of the copper mines, but he would
have gone when his number came up.  Fortunately, the war ended
before that happened. But, few feel the kids in Viet Nam were
"fighting for their country."  That was the problem.

Sorry, I didn't mean to get political, but it had to be said.

Thanks to all of you who recommended speakers for the Deans'

Have a great evening!

Date sent:              Wed, 11 Oct 2000 14:56:48 -0400
From:                   Lorraine Lavorata <[log in to unmask]>
Subject:                Re: political endorsements
To:                     [log in to unmask]
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        <[log in to unmask]>

 Yes but the facts must go both ways, not only on the side of the left. We
must look at all the facts on both the right and the left and give credence
to both sides as both sides have merit and faults. True, much of what is on
the Internet, is not the most scholarly, but as for me, I ignore most of
what I get on the Internet. I obtain my research from studies, journals,
personal experiences I have had in the political arena, and primary sources.
As educators we can voice our opinions but just because someone is a
Republican does not make them bad or evil. Just because of certain newspaper
articles in favour of Gore does not make him a man of principle no more than
the Internet makes Bush a man of principle. Also as for a personal note, I
do not feel dodging the Vietnam War is very honourable. As a person of
French background, we see fighting for one's country as we say in France
part of the concept of liberte, egalite et fraternite.
Sorry for the controversy but in higher education we must deal with
political differences in our teaching, with our students, with the
administration and with educational funding for our institutions. France

-----Original Message-----
From: [Gary Wright]
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: 10/11/00 2:32 PM
Subject: Re: political endorsements

        I grew up in rural East Tennessee during the 1960's.  My nearest
neighbor and childhood friend, Donald Robinson, joined the Green Berets
and went to Vietnam as I went off to the University of Tennessee with a
draft exemption. Donald never came home.
        Senator Albert Gore, Sr. sacrificed his senate seat because he
one of the first to speak out against U.S. involvement in the Vietnam
He was a man of convictions and principles.  I resent that anyone would
publish falsehoods and heresay just because they "found" it on the
internet.  That is what I find unprofessional about this discussion.
        I also believe that Al Gore is a man of principle.  Although the
search has been relentless the only "dirt" to be found was the incident
the "Buddhist Temple."  I find it interesting that, although he was
to have done nothing wrong there, it is still used as a negative
reflection on his character.  That reveals the prejudice and
attitude that is still all too prevalent in a country that is supposed
have freedom of religion.  "How dare he go into a BUDDHIST Temple."
        I don't care for Gov. Bush's politics, but I promise never to
call him names, spread falsehood, rumor and innuendo, and level insults
his father.
        Political discussions (and opinions) are valuable and welcome as
far as I'm concerned, but if we could limit it to the facts and/or our
opinions about THE FACTS, I think we'd all find it much more productive.

"You cannot be a good theoretician, a good analyst,
without being a good practitioner.  If you are one or the
other, either something is wrong in your practice or
something is wrong in your theory."
                             --Julia Kristeva
Robin Redmon Wright
Director of the Academic Assistance and Resource Ctr.
Stephen F. Austin State University