A great idea and a noble thought, Hugh.  However, I'm afraid that the area
with the greatest concentration of scattered paper records is off limits to
all but emergency workers.  By the time anyone would be allowed in to
salvage the paper, most of it may be damaged beyond use or completely

There has been a great deal of discussion lately in ARMA about
de-emphasizing the risk management aspect of RIM.  Yesterday's events show
this to be unrealistic.  Last night, many non-U.S. stock markets took a
serious dive in reaction to the events - and the possibility that WTC based
financial firms would be ruined and/or their information inaccessible.  On
CNBC this morning, a commentator was stressing the fact that all the major
WTC firms, especially trading firms, have back up sites up and running and
that very little, if any, information was lost.  This made me realize even
more the impact that records and information has on lives and livelihoods
all over the world.  Yes, records and information salvage does and should
take second place to the rescue and safety of people.  But when we do our
jobs correctly, the records and information recovery can go smoothly and
with little disruption of the rescue efforts.

Ginny Jones
(Virginia A. Jones, CRM, MIT/LIT)
Newport News Dept. of Public Utilities
Newport News, VA
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-----Original Message-----
From: firelock [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 1:02 PM
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Subject: Re: ARMA could help out in this New York Disaster

I keep hearing reports that paper records are strewn all over the streets
and side walks. These are the records of many great United States companies
and while they are not as important as human life, it could be a sign to
terrorists that we are indomitable in our spirit if ARMA were able to help
recover records.

If Iron Workers can show up to help the recovery process in the building
materials which is their specialty, WHY CAN'T ARMA DO WHAT IT DOES BEST?

Could the Presidents of the New York and New Jersey Chapters contact Mayor
Juliani's office and volunteer our expert assistance in helping recover and
save records. These are blowing all over town and this could be a concerted
effort of professional from ARMA, AIIM and PRISM.

We would get records box companies to donate boxes and we could travel into
New York and box up records and categorize them by companies or types. PRISM
could send in trucks to load the boxes and provide a warehouse space to
temporarily house the records.

This would be a truly noble thing for records managers to do. If someone in
New York has connections to the Mayors office, please let us know. I know I
would take the time to come in and be part of the picking up crew. We could
wear white shirts with ARMA printed in bold marker so the police would know
we are there for a purpose.

We have some powerful records managers in New York, some who work for the
City and State. Please see if we can help and I will start driving over to
be part of the crew.

I know many of the PRISM members from the New York area and I believe that
everyone would be willing to help. But we need records managers to spearhead

I don't know who the New York Chapter Presidents are but maybe Alan Andolsen
or Fred Grevin or Bill Lynch who are very respected in New York could make
this happen. So many of us want to help and here is a way to make it

I am on Digest, so please copy me on your post if it is about this program
going forward. I could be there in two hours if ARMA can get support for

Hugh Smith
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