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Valdis,

Somehow, I feel confident your voice will not be squashed! ;-)

On Thu, 15 Aug 2002, Valdis wrote:

> Right On [as we used to say], Karl!
>
> Previous attempts at 'silence' on SOCNET:
>
> > "Please, take these and similar email notes elsewhere. This has nothing to do with SOCNET."
>
> > "....IMPLORE people not to engage in this discourse!"
>
>
> Isn't the squashing of voices/opinions  a common trait of our current enemy...
> and for that matter, most/all of our recent ones?
>
> Should we be mimicking that behavior?
>
> Funny that a social network group, would inhibit the natural functioning of the network.
>
> IMHO, let the opinions and discourse roll!
>
> Valdis
>
>
>
> "Karl E. Bauman" wrote:
> >
> > Silence on such a critical ethical  issue?  For shame.  I applaud Friedman's
> > boldness, and welcome ugliness if that is what it takes to assure discourse on
> > such an important consideration.
> >
> > Richard Southwick wrote:
> >
> > > All,
> > >
> > > Allow me to quickly jump into this thread and IMPLORE people not to engage
> > > in this discourse!
> > >
> > > While respecting the importance of the issue, I know from experience on
> > > another list (ISWORLD) that this can get very ugly in a heartbeat! Silence
> > > will be golden.
> > >
> > > -- Richard Southwick
> > >    Syracuse University - School of Information Studies
> > >    email:   [log in to unmask]
> > >    webite:  http://web.syr.edu/~rmsouthw
> > >
> > > On Thu, 15 Aug 2002, Sam Friedman wrote:
> > >
> > > > I for one have ethical qualms about working for an organization whose
> > > > stated aim is to kill people--and that performs this task rather often,
> > > > and for purposes that further the economic degradation of human life all
> > > > over the world and also contribute to the ecological crisis.
> > > > As one of the people whose offices were destroyed on September 11, I
> > > > also object to the fact that they often claim to do this in the names of
> > > > my murdered building-mates--even though the policies and interests they
> > > > defend are the same as those they did before that date.
> > > > How do others feel?
> > > >
> > > > Sam Friedman
> > > > National Development and Research Institutes
> > > > 71 West 23d Street
> > > > New York, NY 10010
> > > > USA
> > > > 1 212 845 4467
> > > > Fax 1 917 438 0894
> > > > [log in to unmask]
> > > > >>> "Paul A. Branson" <[log in to unmask]> 08/15/02 01:04 AM >>>
> > > > To the social network community,
> > > >
> > > > We have recently won a contract with the Army to conduct scientific
> > > > research and knowledge econometric analysis at several commands. One of
> > > > the analysis tools we use is Social Network analysis. It started as a
> > > > small project, but due to popularity of our approach has since expanded
> > > > to a project that could span a large section of the Army.
> > > >
> > > > IMII is interested in collaborating with researchers interested in
> > > > social network analysis.
> > > >
> > > > We have also developed a software instrument in C# to conduct a variety
> > > > of social network analysis and econometrics. We are interested in
> > > > learning about current metrics that could be incorporated with within
> > > > this tool.
> > > >
> > > > If you are interested in collaborating with us on a US Army project,
> > > > please contact me at: [log in to unmask] .
> > > >
> > > > The hub of the project is located near Tucson, Arizona.
> > > >
> > > > Edward Swanstrom
> > > > Director
> > > > Innovation Management Institute International (IMII)
> > > >  [log in to unmask]
> > > >  http://www.eknowledgecenter.com
> > > > +1 520-731-3130
> > > >
> >
> > --
> > Karl E. Bauman
> > 513 Dogwood Dr.
> > Chapel Hill, NC  27516
> >
> > Email:  [log in to unmask]
> > Telephone:  919/929-6572
> > Fax:  919/966-2921
>