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Not to sound like a heartless SOB but the life of this miswired little bird
is of probably more biological important to a museum collection than the
gene pool. No, this opinion is not offered in retaliation for it's attempts
to dodge me. Of course this could also be one of the "hopeful monsters" that
changes the world.

Doug Suitor
Bonita Springs, FL


----- Original Message -----
From: Vincent Lucas <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 4:57 PM
Subject: Re: [FLBIRDS] Viera Swallow - Collection


> S.P. McCool said:
>
> >Like Brad and Sarah, I can see both sides of the issue. I think the
> >suggestion of trapping and banding the bird (assuming that one could, in
> >fact, suceed in attracting one swallow out of dozens) should be a viable
> >option.
> >
> >As for collecting, again, I can see the merit of the idea, but also the
> >demerits. Collecting "to confirm the record" doesn't seem to be totally
> >necessary anymore.
>
> Birders:
>
> My 2-cents worth. . . . Here's something else to ponder. Recently, in
> Ohio where I most recently lived before moving to Florida, the first
> state record for Calliope Hummingbird was noted. For positive
> identification purposes, the bird was captured and banded but died as a
> result of the trauma caused by the banding experience, even though the
> banders were well versed in bird banding and had many years of
> experience. How would people feel if the same thing happened in the case
> of this swallow? Would putting an EXACT label on this bird be worth it if
> the bird died from being captured? I for one, think not. Obviously, I am
> not in favor of "collecting" it either, no matter how valid
> ornithologists or ornithologist wannabes think it is by doing so. I can
> live with the ambiguity. leave the bird alone. It got here on its own and
> it can leave on its own.
>
> Good birding!
>
> Vincent Lucas
> Naples
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