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Students may not necessarily read textbooks to pass their classes.  Many
instructors base their tests on lecture notes even though a there is an
assigned text.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary K. Probst" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 6:16 AM
Subject: Re: Grade Inflation


> Gary Probst replied:
> If you compare the textbooks used 40 and 50 years ago to today's college
> textbooks, you will see a big difference.  The textbooks today cover more
> material at a more difficult level.
>
> Also, what I find interesting is many of the textbooks used at community
> colleges on the freshman level are used in colleges and universities at a
> higher level.  For example, Modern Management by Samuel C. Certo.  Since
> these textbooks come with test banks, students in different institutions
> probably are taking the same tests.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Clack" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 5:28 AM
> Subject: Re: Grade Inflation
>
>
> > Has anyone done any research on what students needed to do (amount of
> work,
> > nature to work) to earn and A, B, or C  20 years ago compared to today?
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Gene Kerstiens" <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 2:35 PM
> > Subject: Grade Inflation
> >
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> > > Through the years I've listened to colleagues and read commentators
who
> > > become operatic about grade inflation and evangelistic about
> > "reestablishing
> > > standards."  But my half-century experience with college students
would
> > seem
> > > to parallel Clifford Adelman's findings:  today's students are
different
> > from
> > > earlier learners but no worse; they are just as bad.  Here's an
excerpt
> > from
> > > "Dangerous Myths of Grade Inflation," Chronicle Review, 11/8/02.
> > >
> > > "To get a more accurate picture of whether grades have changed over
the
> > > years, one needs to look at official student transcripts. Clifford
> > Adelman, a
> > > senior research analyst with the U.S. Department of Education, did
just
> > that,
> > > reviewing transcripts from more than 3,000 institutions and reporting
> his
> > > results in 1995. His finding: "Contrary to the widespread
lamentations,
> > > grades actually declined slightly in the last two decades." Moreover,
a
> > > report released just this year by the National Center for Education
> > > Statistics revealed that fully 33.5 percent of American undergraduates
> had
> > a
> > > grade-point average of C or below in 1999-2000, a number that ought to
> > quiet
> > > "all the furor over grade inflation," according to a spokesperson for
> the
> > > Association of American Colleges and Universities. (A review of other
> > > research suggests a comparable lack of support for claims of grade
> > inflation
> > > at the high-school level.)"
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Gene Kerstiens
> > > Andragogy Associates
> > > 3434 W. 227 Place
> > > Torrance, CA 90505-2632
> > > (310) 326-5819
> > > www.sbi4windows.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > > <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT  SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"
> > FACE="Arial" LANG="0">Through the years I've listened to colleagues and
> read
> > commentators who become operatic about grade inflation and evangelistic
> > about "reestablishing standards."&nbsp; But my half-century experience
> with
> > college students would seem to parallel Clifford Adelman's
findings:&nbsp;
> > today's students <I>are </I>different from earlier learners but no
worse;
> > they are just as bad.&nbsp; Here's an excerpt from "Dangerous Myths of
> Grade
> > Inflation," <I>Chronicle Review</I>, 11/8/02.<BR>
> > > <BR>
> > > "To get a more accurate picture of whether grades have changed over
the
> > years, one needs to look at official student transcripts. Clifford
> Adelman,
> > a senior research analyst with the U.S. Department of Education, did
just
> > that, reviewing transcripts from more than 3,000 institutions and
> reporting
> > his results in 1995. His finding: "Contrary to the widespread
> lamentations,
> > grades actually declined slightly in the last two decades." Moreover, a
> > report released just this year by the National Center for Education
> > Statistics revealed that fully 33.5 percent of American undergraduates
had
> a
> > grade-point average of C or below in 1999-2000, a number that ought to
> quiet
> > "all the furor over grade inflation," according to a spokesperson for
the
> > Association of American Colleges and Universities. (A review of other
> > research suggests a comparable lack of support for claims of grade
> inflation
> > at the high-school level.)"<BR>
> > > <BR>
> > > Regards,<BR>
> > > <BR>
> > > Gene Kerstiens<BR>
> > > Andragogy Associates<BR>
> > > 3434 W. 227 Place<BR>
> > > Torrance, CA 90505-2632<BR>
> > > (310) 326-5819<BR>
> > > www.sbi4windows.com<BR>
> > > <BR>
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