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From:         Doug Bryan <[log in to unmask]>
Subject:      Reagans' & Zuckerman's team density metric

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Hi,

I have 2 questions regarding Reagans and Zuckerman's work on R&D teams
(Reagans R and Zuckerman E (2001) "Networks, diversity and productivity: The
social capital of corporate R&D teams," Organization Science,
12(4):502-517):

1. Is the paper highly regarded?  i.e., is it often cited?

2. In their metric for "team density" they normalize the strength of ties
from i to j using the strength of the strongest tie from i.  (See attached
figure.)  Why?  Can people comment on the pros/cons of normalizing relative
to each individual (max(tie(i,*))) versus normalizing relative to the whole
team (max(tie(*,*))).

thanks
Doug Bryan
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Doug,

For what it's worth, I think this paper is awful and should never be
cited...   :-)

There is no one right way to normalize. Depends on what you are trying
to measure.  The logic of normalizing by ego is that you want to remove
individual differences in the average tie strength and just focusing on
structure.  If you normalize based on the entire network, part of what
drives density is variation in average tie strength.  This strategy for
normalization is implemented in STRUCTURE; definitely not original to
us.  And, BTW, our results don't depend on the normalization.

Cheers,

Ezra Zuckerman

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Hi,

I have 2 questions regarding Reagans and Zuckerman's work on R&D teams
(Reagans R and Zuckerman E (2001) "Networks, diversity and productivity:
The
social capital of corporate R&D teams," Organization Science,
12(4):502-517):

1. Is the paper highly regarded?  i.e., is it often cited?

2. In their metric for "team density" they normalize the strength of
ties
from i to j using the strength of the strongest tie from i.  (See
attached
figure.)  Why?  Can people comment on the pros/cons of normalizing
relative
to each individual (max(tie(i,*))) versus normalizing relative to the
whole
team (max(tie(*,*))).

thanks
Doug Bryan
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Subject:      Annealing, AutoCorrelation and Proximity Measures

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Hi,

I would be very grateful if you could give me some assistance with
regard to three issues I'm grappling with in Ucinet

1. Is the "annealing" procedure that is available in Krackplot
available in Pajek or Netdraw (now implemented in UCINET)?

2. I realized that similarity measures measured by
Tools-->Similarities is different from that produced by
Roles&Positions-->Structural-->Profile routine for structural
equivalence, if using the same binary data as input.  What is the difference
between these two dissimilarities?  Here is what I'm doing: I have done some blockmodeling, and I'm
interested in repeating the same analysis using MDS, a procedure which
requires a matrix of proximities as input. I was planning to use the same
similarity matrix 9which produced the hierarchical clustering )
for the MDS, so I can compare the results.

3. I'm interested in finding the relationship between a HIV-risk comunication network and gender of network members, at an individual level of analysis and thought I could use the
Vector-Anova procedure. Thus, is the output produced by the Tools-Statistics-Vector-Anova based on the total number of actors in the network, or the number of ties?



Thanks in advance for your assistance - Emmanuel.


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A number of people have asked to see a summary of the responses to my
posting on social networks in R&D, so I am providing one below.

Thanks very much to everyone -- I appreciate all the excellent leads.

Jean


Summary of References from SocNet Posting on Social Networks in R&D

Greve A & Salaff J (2001). The development of corporate social capital
in
complex innovation processes. In S Gabbay & R Leenders (eds.): Social
capital of organizations. Research in the sociology of organizations,
Vol
18.

Hansen M, Podolny J & Pfeffer J (2001). So many ties, so little time: A
Task contingency perspective on corporate social capital in
organizations.
In S Gabbay & R Leenders (eds.): Social capital of organizations.
Research
in the sociology of organizations, Vol 18.

Reagans R & Zuckerman E (2001). Networks, Diversity, and Productivity:
The
Social Capital of Corporate R&D Teams. Organization Science 12:4,
502–517.

Reagans, Ray (CMU org behavior and theory) and Ezra Zuckerman (Stanford
GSB strategy) (1999) "Networks, diversity, and performance: the social
capital
of corporate R&D units."  Stanford University Graduate School of
Business
research paper no. 1585.
http://gobi.stanford.edu/researchpapers/detail1.asp?Paper_No=1585

"'R' Meets 'D' on the Web," Jane Linder, R&D Magazine, August 2001
http://www.rdmag.com/features/0108web.asp
Long version available at http://www.accenture.com/isc

Gabbay, Shaul M. (political science) and Ezra W. Zuckerman (Stanford
GSB)
(1998) "Social capital and opportunity in corporate R&D: The contingent
effect of contact density on mobility expectations." Social Science
Research
27: 189-217.

Walter W. Powell (1996) "Inter-organizational collaboration in the
biotechnology industry," Journal of Institutional and Theoretical
Economics,
512:197-215

Antonio J. Bailetti, John R. Callahan and Sean McCluskey (1998)
"Coordination at different stages of the product design process," R&D
Management, 28(4), October

Rice, R.E., Collins-Jarvis, L. & Zydney-Walker, S. (1999). Individual
and
structural influences on information technology helping relationships.
Journal of Applied Communication Research, 27(4), 285-303.

Cross, R., Rice, R.E. & Parker, A. (2001).  Information seeking in
social
context: Structural influences and receipt of information benefits.
IEEE
Transactions on Systems, Man and Cybernetics-Part C, 31(4), 438-448.

E. Jin, M Girvan and M.E. Newman, The structure of growing social
networks
(http://www.santafe.edu/sfi/publications/Working-Papers/01-06-032.pdf)

Networks of Innovation : Vaccine Development at Merck, Sharp and Dohme,
and Mulford,  1895-1995 by Louis Galambos and Jane Eliot Sewell

Bibliography on Social Network Analysis:
http://wizard.ucr.edu/~rhannema/networks/text/biblio.html

Teigland, R., Fey, C. F., & Birkenshaw, J. (2000). Knowledge
dissemination in global R&D operations: An empirical study of
multinationals in the high technology electronics industry. Management
International Review: Journal of International Business(Special Issue
2000/1), 49-77.

Teigland, R., & Wasko, M. (2003). Integrating Knowledge Through
Information Trading: Examining the Impact of Boundary-spanning
Communication on Individual Performance. Decision Sciences(Special issue
on knowledge management (forthcoming)).

Wasko, M. M., & Teigland, R. (2002). The provision of online public
goods: examining social structure in a network of practice. Paper
presented at the 23rd International Conference on Information Systems,
Barcelona, Spain.

Jarvenpaa, Sirkka L. and Leidner, Dorothy E. 2000. "Communication and
Trust in Global Virtual Teams." Organization Science 6:791-815.

Johnson, Christopher M. 2001. "A Survey of Current Research on Online
Communities of Practice." Internet and Higher Education 45-60.

Matzat, Uwe. 2001. Social Networks and Cooperation in Electronic
Communities: A Theoretical-Empirical Analysis of Academic Communication
and Internet Discussion Groups. Amsterdam: Thela Publishers. also
online: http://www.ub.rug.nl/eldoc/dis/ppsw/u.matzat/

Rojo, Alejandra and Ragsdale, R. G. 1997. "A Process Perspective on
Participation in Scholarly Electronic Forums." Science Communication
4:320-341.

 -----. 1997. "Participation in Electronic Forums: Implications for the
Design and Implementation of Collaborative Distributed Multimedia."
Telematics and Informatics 1:83-96.


Consulting projects:
SNA/ONA in research lab: http://www.orgnet.com/knowledge_maps.html
SNA/ONA in high tech org: http://www.orgnet.com/experts.html

Anecdotal stories:  http://www.cos.com/


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A number of people have asked to see a summary of the responses to my posting
on social networks in R&amp;D, so I am providing one below.
<p>Thanks very much to everyone -- I appreciate all the excellent leads.
<p>Jean
<br>&nbsp;
<p><b>Summary of References from SocNet Posting on Social Networks in R&amp;D</b>
<p>Greve A &amp; Salaff J (2001). The development of corporate social capital
in
<br>complex innovation processes. In S Gabbay &amp; R Leenders (eds.):
Social
<br>capital of organizations. Research in the sociology of organizations,
Vol
<br>18.
<p>Hansen M, Podolny J &amp; Pfeffer J (2001). So many ties, so little
time: A
<br>Task contingency perspective on corporate social capital in organizations.
<br>In S Gabbay &amp; R Leenders (eds.): Social capital of organizations.
Research
<br>in the sociology of organizations, Vol 18.
<p>Reagans R &amp; Zuckerman E (2001). Networks, Diversity, and Productivity:
The
<br>Social Capital of Corporate R&amp;D Teams. Organization Science 12:4,
502–517.
<p>Reagans, Ray (CMU org behavior and theory) and Ezra Zuckerman (Stanford
GSB strategy) (1999) "Networks, diversity, and performance: the social
capital
<br>of corporate R&amp;D units."&nbsp; Stanford University Graduate School
of Business
<br>research paper no. 1585.
<br><a href="http://gobi.stanford.edu/researchpapers/detail1.asp?Paper_No=1585">http://gobi.stanford.edu/researchpapers/detail1.asp?Paper_No=1585</a>
<p>"'R' Meets 'D' on the Web," Jane Linder, R&amp;D Magazine, August 2001
<br><a href="http://www.rdmag.com/features/0108web.asp">http://www.rdmag.com/features/0108web.asp</a>
<br>Long version available at <a href="http://www.accenture.com/isc">http://www.accenture.com/isc</a>
<p>Gabbay, Shaul M. (political science) and Ezra W. Zuckerman (Stanford
GSB)
<br>(1998) "Social capital and opportunity in corporate R&amp;D: The contingent
<br>effect of contact density on mobility expectations." Social Science
Research
<br>27: 189-217.
<p>Walter W. Powell (1996) "Inter-organizational collaboration in the
<br>biotechnology industry," Journal of Institutional and Theoretical Economics,
<br>512:197-215
<p>Antonio J. Bailetti, John R. Callahan and Sean McCluskey (1998)
<br>"Coordination at different stages of the product design process," R&amp;D
<br>Management, 28(4), October
<p>Rice, R.E., Collins-Jarvis, L. &amp; Zydney-Walker, S. (1999). Individual
and
<br>structural influences on information technology helping relationships.
<br>Journal of Applied Communication Research, 27(4), 285-303.
<p>Cross, R., Rice, R.E. &amp; Parker, A. (2001).&nbsp; Information seeking
in social
<br>context: Structural influences and receipt of information benefits.&nbsp;
IEEE
<br>Transactions on Systems, Man and Cybernetics-Part C, 31(4), 438-448.
<p>E. Jin, M Girvan and M.E. Newman, The structure of growing social networks
<br>(<a href="http://www.santafe.edu/sfi/publications/Working-Papers/01-06-032.pdf">http://www.santafe.edu/sfi/publications/Working-Papers/01-06-032.pdf</a>)
<p>Networks of Innovation : Vaccine Development at Merck, Sharp and Dohme,
and Mulford,&nbsp; 1895-1995 by Louis Galambos and Jane Eliot Sewell
<p>Bibliography on Social Network Analysis: <a href="http://wizard.ucr.edu/~rhannema/networks/text/biblio.html">http://wizard.ucr.edu/~rhannema/networks/text/biblio.html</a>
<p>Teigland, R., Fey, C. F., &amp; Birkenshaw, J. (2000). Knowledge dissemination
in global R&amp;D operations: An empirical study of multinationals in the
high technology electronics industry. Management International Review:
Journal of International Business(Special Issue 2000/1), 49-77.
<p>Teigland, R., &amp; Wasko, M. (2003). Integrating Knowledge Through
Information Trading: Examining the Impact of Boundary-spanning Communication
on Individual Performance. Decision Sciences(Special issue on knowledge
management (forthcoming)).
<p>Wasko, M. M., &amp; Teigland, R. (2002). The provision of online public
goods: examining social structure in a network of practice. Paper presented
at the 23rd International Conference on Information Systems, Barcelona,
Spain.
<p>Jarvenpaa, Sirkka L. and Leidner, Dorothy E. 2000. "Communication and
Trust in Global Virtual Teams." Organization Science 6:791-815.
<p>Johnson, Christopher M. 2001. "A Survey of Current Research on Online
Communities of Practice." Internet and Higher Education 45-60.
<p>Matzat, Uwe. 2001. Social Networks and Cooperation in Electronic Communities:
A Theoretical-Empirical Analysis of Academic Communication and Internet
Discussion Groups. Amsterdam: Thela Publishers. also online: <a href="http://www.ub.rug.nl/eldoc/dis/ppsw/u.matzat/">http://www.ub.rug.nl/eldoc/dis/ppsw/u.matzat/</a>
<p>Rojo, Alejandra and Ragsdale, R. G. 1997. "A Process Perspective on
Participation in Scholarly Electronic Forums." Science Communication 4:320-341.
<p>&nbsp;-----. 1997. "Participation in Electronic Forums: Implications
for the Design and Implementation of Collaborative Distributed Multimedia."
Telematics and Informatics 1:83-96.
<br>&nbsp;
<p>Consulting projects:
<br>SNA/ONA in research lab: <a href="http://www.orgnet.com/knowledge_maps.html">http://www.orgnet.com/knowledge_maps.html</a>
<br>SNA/ONA in high tech org: <a href="http://www.orgnet.com/experts.html">http://www.orgnet.com/experts.html</a>
<p>Anecdotal stories:&nbsp; <a href="http://www.cos.com/">http://www.cos.com/</a>
<br>&nbsp;</html>

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And I've coauthored 2 articles with Emmanuel Koku, Nancy Nazer:
Both on my website:

Emmanuel Koku, Nancy Nazer and Barry Wellman. "Netting Scholars: Online
and Offline." American Behavioral Scientist, 44, 10 (June, 2001): 1750-72.
Listed at PESOS ["Penn Economic and Organizational Sociology
Working Paper Abstract Series"], University of Pennsylvania, Nov 2000.
http://pesos.wharton.upenn.edu/papers.htm

Emmanuel Koku and Barry Wellman, "Scholarly Networks as Learning
Communities: The Case of TechNet." In press in Building Online Communities
in the Service of Learning, edited by Sasha Barab, Rob Kling and James
Gray. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 2003.

A new one is nearing completion with Howard White and Nancy Nazer about
the intersection of citation networks and social networks. A different
take on info diffusion.

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On Tue, 21 Jan 2003, Jean Singer wrote:

> Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 13:19:12 -0500
> From: Jean Singer <[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Social Networks in R&D
>
> A number of people have asked to see a summary of the responses to my
> posting on social networks in R&D, so I am providing one below.
>
> Thanks very much to everyone -- I appreciate all the excellent leads.
>
> Jean
>
>
> Summary of References from SocNet Posting on Social Networks in R&D
>
> Greve A & Salaff J (2001). The development of corporate social capital
> in
> complex innovation processes. In S Gabbay & R Leenders (eds.): Social
> capital of organizations. Research in the sociology of organizations,
> Vol
> 18.
>
> Hansen M, Podolny J & Pfeffer J (2001). So many ties, so little time: A
> Task contingency perspective on corporate social capital in
> organizations.
> In S Gabbay & R Leenders (eds.): Social capital of organizations.
> Research
> in the sociology of organizations, Vol 18.
>
> Reagans R & Zuckerman E (2001). Networks, Diversity, and Productivity:
> The
> Social Capital of Corporate R&D Teams. Organization Science 12:4,
> 502–517.
>
> Reagans, Ray (CMU org behavior and theory) and Ezra Zuckerman (Stanford
> GSB strategy) (1999) "Networks, diversity, and performance: the social
> capital
> of corporate R&D units."  Stanford University Graduate School of
> Business
> research paper no. 1585.
> http://gobi.stanford.edu/researchpapers/detail1.asp?Paper_No=1585
>
> "'R' Meets 'D' on the Web," Jane Linder, R&D Magazine, August 2001
> http://www.rdmag.com/features/0108web.asp
> Long version available at http://www.accenture.com/isc
>
> Gabbay, Shaul M. (political science) and Ezra W. Zuckerman (Stanford
> GSB)
> (1998) "Social capital and opportunity in corporate R&D: The contingent
> effect of contact density on mobility expectations." Social Science
> Research
> 27: 189-217.
>
> Walter W. Powell (1996) "Inter-organizational collaboration in the
> biotechnology industry," Journal of Institutional and Theoretical
> Economics,
> 512:197-215
>
> Antonio J. Bailetti, John R. Callahan and Sean McCluskey (1998)
> "Coordination at different stages of the product design process," R&D
> Management, 28(4), October
>
> Rice, R.E., Collins-Jarvis, L. & Zydney-Walker, S. (1999). Individual
> and
> structural influences on information technology helping relationships.
> Journal of Applied Communication Research, 27(4), 285-303.
>
> Cross, R., Rice, R.E. & Parker, A. (2001).  Information seeking in
> social
> context: Structural influences and receipt of information benefits.
> IEEE
> Transactions on Systems, Man and Cybernetics-Part C, 31(4), 438-448.
>
> E. Jin, M Girvan and M.E. Newman, The structure of growing social
> networks
> (http://www.santafe.edu/sfi/publications/Working-Papers/01-06-032.pdf)
>
> Networks of Innovation : Vaccine Development at Merck, Sharp and Dohme,
> and Mulford,  1895-1995 by Louis Galambos and Jane Eliot Sewell
>
> Bibliography on Social Network Analysis:
> http://wizard.ucr.edu/~rhannema/networks/text/biblio.html
>
> Teigland, R., Fey, C. F., & Birkenshaw, J. (2000). Knowledge
> dissemination in global R&D operations: An empirical study of
> multinationals in the high technology electronics industry. Management
> International Review: Journal of International Business(Special Issue
> 2000/1), 49-77.
>
> Teigland, R., & Wasko, M. (2003). Integrating Knowledge Through
> Information Trading: Examining the Impact of Boundary-spanning
> Communication on Individual Performance. Decision Sciences(Special issue
> on knowledge management (forthcoming)).
>
> Wasko, M. M., & Teigland, R. (2002). The provision of online public
> goods: examining social structure in a network of practice. Paper
> presented at the 23rd International Conference on Information Systems,
> Barcelona, Spain.
>
> Jarvenpaa, Sirkka L. and Leidner, Dorothy E. 2000. "Communication and
> Trust in Global Virtual Teams." Organization Science 6:791-815.
>
> Johnson, Christopher M. 2001. "A Survey of Current Research on Online
> Communities of Practice." Internet and Higher Education 45-60.
>
> Matzat, Uwe. 2001. Social Networks and Cooperation in Electronic
> Communities: A Theoretical-Empirical Analysis of Academic Communication
> and Internet Discussion Groups. Amsterdam: Thela Publishers. also
> online: http://www.ub.rug.nl/eldoc/dis/ppsw/u.matzat/
>
> Rojo, Alejandra and Ragsdale, R. G. 1997. "A Process Perspective on
> Participation in Scholarly Electronic Forums." Science Communication
> 4:320-341.
>
>  -----. 1997. "Participation in Electronic Forums: Implications for the
> Design and Implementation of Collaborative Distributed Multimedia."
> Telematics and Informatics 1:83-96.
>
>
> Consulting projects:
> SNA/ONA in research lab: http://www.orgnet.com/knowledge_maps.html
> SNA/ONA in high tech org: http://www.orgnet.com/experts.html
>
> Anecdotal stories:  http://www.cos.com/
>
>

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Speaking of posting responses, some time ago someone (I believe the last
name was Green) mentioned that s/he would post a list of responses to
his/her request for references regarding social support. Has the list been
posted? If not, will it be posted soon?

Thank you.



-----Original Message-----
From: Jean Singer [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 1:19 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Social Networks in R&D



A number of people have asked to see a summary of the responses to my
posting on social networks in R&D, so I am providing one below.

Thanks very much to everyone -- I appreciate all the excellent leads.

Jean


Summary of References from SocNet Posting on Social Networks in R&D

Greve A & Salaff J (2001). The development of corporate social capital in
complex innovation processes. In S Gabbay & R Leenders (eds.): Social
capital of organizations. Research in the sociology of organizations, Vol
18.

Hansen M, Podolny J & Pfeffer J (2001). So many ties, so little time: A
Task contingency perspective on corporate social capital in organizations.
In S Gabbay & R Leenders (eds.): Social capital of organizations. Research
in the sociology of organizations, Vol 18.

Reagans R & Zuckerman E (2001). Networks, Diversity, and Productivity: The
Social Capital of Corporate R&D Teams. Organization Science 12:4, 502-517.

Reagans, Ray (CMU org behavior and theory) and Ezra Zuckerman (Stanford GSB
strategy) (1999) "Networks, diversity, and performance: the social capital
of corporate R&D units."  Stanford University Graduate School of Business
research paper no. 1585.
http://gobi.stanford.edu/researchpapers/detail1.asp?Paper_No=1585
<http://gobi.stanford.edu/researchpapers/detail1.asp?Paper_No=1585>

"'R' Meets 'D' on the Web," Jane Linder, R&D Magazine, August 2001
http://www.rdmag.com/features/0108web.asp
<http://www.rdmag.com/features/0108web.asp>
Long version available at http://www.accenture.com/isc
<http://www.accenture.com/isc>

Gabbay, Shaul M. (political science) and Ezra W. Zuckerman (Stanford GSB)
(1998) "Social capital and opportunity in corporate R&D: The contingent
effect of contact density on mobility expectations." Social Science Research

27: 189-217.

Walter W. Powell (1996) "Inter-organizational collaboration in the
biotechnology industry," Journal of Institutional and Theoretical Economics,

512:197-215

Antonio J. Bailetti, John R. Callahan and Sean McCluskey (1998)
"Coordination at different stages of the product design process," R&D
Management, 28(4), October

Rice, R.E., Collins-Jarvis, L. & Zydney-Walker, S. (1999). Individual and
structural influences on information technology helping relationships.
Journal of Applied Communication Research, 27(4), 285-303.

Cross, R., Rice, R.E. & Parker, A. (2001).  Information seeking in social
context: Structural influences and receipt of information benefits.  IEEE
Transactions on Systems, Man and Cybernetics-Part C, 31(4), 438-448.

E. Jin, M Girvan and M.E. Newman, The structure of growing social networks
(http://www.santafe.edu/sfi/publications/Working-Papers/01-06-032.pdf
<http://www.santafe.edu/sfi/publications/Working-Papers/01-06-032.pdf> )

Networks of Innovation : Vaccine Development at Merck, Sharp and Dohme, and
Mulford,  1895-1995 by Louis Galambos and Jane Eliot Sewell

Bibliography on Social Network Analysis:
http://wizard.ucr.edu/~rhannema/networks/text/biblio.html
<http://wizard.ucr.edu/~rhannema/networks/text/biblio.html>

Teigland, R., Fey, C. F., & Birkenshaw, J. (2000). Knowledge dissemination
in global R&D operations: An empirical study of multinationals in the high
technology electronics industry. Management International Review: Journal of
International Business(Special Issue 2000/1), 49-77.

Teigland, R., & Wasko, M. (2003). Integrating Knowledge Through Information
Trading: Examining the Impact of Boundary-spanning Communication on
Individual Performance. Decision Sciences(Special issue on knowledge
management (forthcoming)).

Wasko, M. M., & Teigland, R. (2002). The provision of online public goods:
examining social structure in a network of practice. Paper presented at the
23rd International Conference on Information Systems, Barcelona, Spain.

Jarvenpaa, Sirkka L. and Leidner, Dorothy E. 2000. "Communication and Trust
in Global Virtual Teams." Organization Science 6:791-815.

Johnson, Christopher M. 2001. "A Survey of Current Research on Online
Communities of Practice." Internet and Higher Education 45-60.

Matzat, Uwe. 2001. Social Networks and Cooperation in Electronic
Communities: A Theoretical-Empirical Analysis of Academic Communication and
Internet Discussion Groups. Amsterdam: Thela Publishers. also online:
http://www.ub.rug.nl/eldoc/dis/ppsw/u.matzat/
<http://www.ub.rug.nl/eldoc/dis/ppsw/u.matzat/>

Rojo, Alejandra and Ragsdale, R. G. 1997. "A Process Perspective on
Participation in Scholarly Electronic Forums." Science Communication
4:320-341.

 -----. 1997. "Participation in Electronic Forums: Implications for the
Design and Implementation of Collaborative Distributed Multimedia."
Telematics and Informatics 1:83-96.


Consulting projects:
SNA/ONA in research lab: http://www.orgnet.com/knowledge_maps.html
<http://www.orgnet.com/knowledge_maps.html>
SNA/ONA in high tech org: http://www.orgnet.com/experts.html
<http://www.orgnet.com/experts.html>

Anecdotal stories:  http://www.cos.com/ <http://www.cos.com/>



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12.0pt'>Speaking of posting responses, some time ago someone (I believe =
the
last name was Green) mentioned that s/he would post a list of responses =
to
his/her request for references regarding social support. Has the list =
been
posted? If not, will it be posted soon?</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>Thank you.</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> Jean Singer
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] <br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> =
</span></font><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>Tuesday,
 January 21, 2003</span></font><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> </span></font><font size=3D2 =
face=3DTahoma><span
 style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>1:19 =
PM</span></font><font size=3D2
face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> =
[log in to unmask]<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Social Networks =
in
R&amp;D</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>A number of people have asked to see a summary of the responses =
to my
posting on social networks in R&amp;D, so I am providing one below. =
</span></font></p>

<p><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Thanks
very much to everyone -- I appreciate all the excellent leads. =
</span></font></p>

<p><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Jean <br>
&nbsp; </span></font></p>

<p><b><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;
font-weight:bold'>Summary of References from SocNet Posting on Social =
Networks
in R&amp;D</span></font></b> </p>

<p><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Greve A
&amp; Salaff J (2001). The development of corporate social capital in =
<br>
complex innovation processes. In S Gabbay &amp; R Leenders (eds.): =
Social <br>
capital of organizations. Research in the sociology of organizations, =
Vol <br>
18. </span></font></p>

<p><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Hansen M,
Podolny J &amp; Pfeffer J (2001). So many ties, so little time: A <br>
Task contingency perspective on corporate social capital in =
organizations. <br>
In S Gabbay &amp; R Leenders (eds.): Social capital of organizations. =
Research <br>
in the sociology of organizations, Vol 18. </span></font></p>

<p><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Reagans R
&amp; Zuckerman E (2001). Networks, Diversity, and Productivity: The =
<br>
Social Capital of Corporate R&amp;D Teams. Organization Science 12:4,
502-517. </span></font></p>

<p><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Reagans,
Ray (CMU org behavior and theory) and Ezra Zuckerman (Stanford GSB =
strategy)
(1999) &quot;Networks, diversity, and performance: the social capital =
<br>
of corporate R&amp;D units.&quot;&nbsp; Stanford University Graduate =
School of
Business <br>
research paper no. 1585. <br>
<a =
href=3D"http://gobi.stanford.edu/researchpapers/detail1.asp?Paper_No=3D1=
585">http://gobi.stanford.edu/researchpapers/detail1.asp?Paper_No=3D1585=
</a>
</span></font></p>

<p><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&quot;'R'
Meets 'D' on the Web,&quot; Jane Linder, R&amp;D Magazine, August 2001 =
<br>
<a =
href=3D"http://www.rdmag.com/features/0108web.asp">http://www.rdmag.com/=
features/0108web.asp</a>
<br>
Long version available at <a =
href=3D"http://www.accenture.com/isc">http://www.accenture.com/isc</a>
</span></font></p>

<p><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Gabbay,
Shaul M. (political science) and Ezra W. Zuckerman (Stanford GSB) <br>
(1998) &quot;Social capital and opportunity in corporate R&amp;D: The
contingent <br>
effect of contact density on mobility expectations.&quot; Social =
Science
Research <br>
27: 189-217. </span></font></p>

<p><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Walter W.
Powell (1996) &quot;Inter-organizational collaboration in the <br>
biotechnology industry,&quot; Journal of Institutional and Theoretical
Economics, <br>
512:197-215 </span></font></p>

<p><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Antonio
J. Bailetti, John R. Callahan and Sean McCluskey (1998) <br>
&quot;Coordination at different stages of the product design =
process,&quot;
R&amp;D <br>
Management, 28(4), October </span></font></p>

<p><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Rice,
R.E., Collins-Jarvis, L. &amp; Zydney-Walker, S. (1999). Individual and =
<br>
structural influences on information technology helping relationships. =
<br>
Journal of Applied Communication Research, 27(4), 285-303. =
</span></font></p>

<p><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Cross,
R., Rice, R.E. &amp; Parker, A. (2001).&nbsp; Information seeking in =
social <br>
context: Structural influences and receipt of information =
benefits.&nbsp; IEEE <br>
Transactions on Systems, Man and Cybernetics-Part C, 31(4), 438-448. =
</span></font></p>

<p><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>E. Jin, M
Girvan and M.E. Newman, The structure of growing social networks <br>
(<a =
href=3D"http://www.santafe.edu/sfi/publications/Working-Papers/01-06-032=
.pdf">http://www.santafe.edu/sfi/publications/Working-Papers/01-06-032.=
pdf</a>)
</span></font></p>

<p><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Networks
of Innovation : Vaccine Development at Merck, Sharp and Dohme, and
Mulford,&nbsp; 1895-1995 by Louis Galambos and Jane Eliot Sewell =
</span></font></p>

<p><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Bibliography
on Social Network Analysis: <a
href=3D"http://wizard.ucr.edu/~rhannema/networks/text/biblio.html">http:=
//wizard.ucr.edu/~rhannema/networks/text/biblio.html</a>
</span></font></p>

<p><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Teigland,
R., Fey, C. F., &amp; Birkenshaw, J. (2000). Knowledge dissemination in =
global
R&amp;D operations: An empirical study of multinationals in the high =
technology
electronics industry. Management International Review: Journal of =
International
Business(Special Issue 2000/1), 49-77. </span></font></p>

<p><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Teigland,
R., &amp; Wasko, M. (2003). Integrating Knowledge Through Information =
Trading:
Examining the Impact of Boundary-spanning Communication on Individual
Performance. Decision Sciences(Special issue on knowledge management
(forthcoming)). </span></font></p>

<p><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Wasko, M.
M., &amp; Teigland, R. (2002). The provision of online public goods: =
examining
social structure in a network of practice. Paper presented at the 23rd
International Conference on Information Systems, =
</span></font>Barcelona, Spain.
</p>

<p><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Jarvenpaa,
Sirkka L. and Leidner, Dorothy E. 2000. &quot;Communication and Trust =
in Global
Virtual Teams.&quot; Organization Science 6:791-815. </span></font></p>

<p><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Johnson,
Christopher M. 2001. &quot;A Survey of Current Research on Online =
Communities
of Practice.&quot; Internet and Higher Education 45-60. =
</span></font></p>

<p><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Matzat,
Uwe. 2001. Social Networks and Cooperation in Electronic Communities: A
Theoretical-Empirical Analysis of Academic Communication and Internet =
Discussion
Groups. </span></font>Amsterdam: Thela Publishers. also online: <a
href=3D"http://www.ub.rug.nl/eldoc/dis/ppsw/u.matzat/">http://www.ub.rug=
.nl/eldoc/dis/ppsw/u.matzat/</a>
</p>

<p><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Rojo,
Alejandra and Ragsdale, R. G. 1997. &quot;A Process Perspective on
Participation in Scholarly Electronic Forums.&quot; Science =
Communication
4:320-341. </span></font></p>

<p><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;-----.
1997. &quot;Participation in Electronic Forums: Implications for the =
Design and
Implementation of Collaborative Distributed Multimedia.&quot; =
Telematics and
Informatics 1:83-96. <br>
&nbsp; </span></font></p>

<p><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Consulting
projects: <br>
SNA/ONA in research lab: <a =
href=3D"http://www.orgnet.com/knowledge_maps.html">http://www.orgnet.com=
/knowledge_maps.html</a>
<br>
SNA/ONA in high tech org: <a =
href=3D"http://www.orgnet.com/experts.html">http://www.orgnet.com/expert=
s.html</a>
</span></font></p>

<p><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Anecdotal
stories:&nbsp; <a href=3D"http://www.cos.com/">http://www.cos.com/</a> =
<br>
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I can't help but be self-serving on this one.  See Mark Mizruchi, "What
Do Interlocks Do? An Analysis, Critique, and Assessment of Research on
Interlocking Directorates," Annual Review of Sociology, 1996, pp.
271-298.  It should be comprehensible to undergrads.
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-----Original Message-----
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can't help but be self-serving on this one.&nbsp; See Mark Mizruchi, =
"What Do=20
Interlocks Do? An Analysis, Critique, and Assessment of Research on =
Interlocking=20
Directorates," Annual Review of Sociology, 1996, pp. 271-298.&nbsp; It =
should be=20
comprehensible to undergrads.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN class=3D755192403-22012003>Mark=20
M.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D755192403-22012003>h</SPAN>omepage:&nbsp; </FONT></FONT><A=20
href=3D"http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mizruchi/" target=3D_blank><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mizruchi/</FONT></A> </P>
<DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
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size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Luther, Jim=20
[mailto:[log in to unmask]]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, January 21, 2003 =
10:13=20
PM<BR><B>To:</B> [log in to unmask]<BR><B>Subject:</B> Introduction to =

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<P>Does anybody know where to find SNA of social organizations working in people's needs? Is there any reaserch conducted in this field?</P>
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Dear Jim,
For a comprehensive, non technical introduction to SNA see:

Stokman, Frans N., Networks: Social, International Encyclopedia for the
Social & Behavioral Sciences, 2001, p 10509-10514

For the dual meaning of interlocking directates, see:

Stokman, Frans N.,, Jelle van der Knoop, and Frans W. Wasseur,
Interlocks in the Netherlands: Stability and Careers in the Period
1960-1980, Social Networks, 10 (1988), 183-208

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Dear List-Folks,

I'm interested in doing social network analysis on an Egyptian tax
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It's the results of the INSNA elections!

Congratulations to (a) Bill Richards, our new President, (b) Scott Feld, our
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These are 3-year terms. There will be changes in the membership of the board
of directors as well -- some appointed and some elected -- but these will
wait until after the inauguration of the new officers at Sunbelt.

Thanks to all who ran for office and participated in the voting. This kind
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Hello,

For anyone passing through Cambridge on one of the dates below, you're
welcome to step in for a free lunch and some complex networking at the
Cambridge Colloquium on Complexity and Social Networks.

The schedule, as well as papers, etc, is up at
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 February 10, 12:00, Faculty Dinning Room, KSG, Professor Frans Stokman,
 University of Groningen, the Netherlands, "Exchange Networks With
 Externalities".


 February 24, 12:00, Faculty Dinning Room, KSG, Roberto M. Fernandez, MIT,
 "Gendering the Job: Queues, Networks and Screening," authors Roberto M.
 Fernandez and Lourdes Sosa, both MIT Sloan School of Management.


 March 3, 12:00, Fainsoid Room, KSG, Professor Albert-Laszio Barabasi,
 University of Notre Dame, "The Architecture of Complex Networks".


 March 13, 11:30 a.m., Bell Hall, KSG, Laurence Prusak, former director of
 the Knowledge Management Institution, IBM and co-author of Knowledge
 Management, Title TBA.


 April 7, 12:00, CBRSS, Professor Leigh Tesfatsion, Iowa State University,
 Evolution of Worker-Employer Networks and Behaviors Under Alternative
 Non-Employment Benefits: An Agent-Based Computational Study"


 April 28, 12:00, Fainsod room, KSG, TBD.





 All talks begin at noon and end at 1:30pm (unless otherwise noted)


 Please note that a light lunch will be available at these colloquia.


 For off campus visitors, please note that both locations are easily
 available from the Harvard T stop.  The Kennedy School is located a five
 minute walk down JFK Street from the T (79 JFK Street).  CBRSS is located
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Connect, They Say, Only Connect

January 25, 2003
By EMILY EAKIN






The whiteboard in Duncan J. Watts's office at Columbia
University was a thicket of squiggly blue lines, circles
and calculus equations. Mr. Watts, an associate professor
of sociology, had just begun a passionate disquisition on
the virtues and liabilities of scale-free networks when the
telephone rang. It was Alfred Berkeley, the vice chairman
of Nasdaq, hoping to chat about the exchange's design.

Mr. Watts, 31, is a network theorist. And these days that
means fielding frequent calls from powerful admirers like
Mr. Berkeley - Wall Street moguls and government officials
eager to tap into a nascent academic science that few
understand but that many think may hold the key to
everything from predicting fashion trends to preventing
terrorism, stock market meltdowns and the spread of HIV.

Never mind that Mr. Watts's new book on the subject, "Six
Degrees: The Science of a Connected Age," which will be
published by W. W. Norton next month, is littered with the
arcana of theoretical physics as well as charts and graphs
that appear to require an advanced degree in math in order
to decipher. Network theory is hot. Two other recent books
on networks, "Linked: The New Science of Networks"
(Perseus, 2002) by Albert-Laszlo Barabasi and "Nexus: Small
Worlds and the Groundbreaking Science of Networks" (W. W.
Norton) by Mark Buchanan, have already sold tens of
thousands of copies.

And that's not counting sales in the burgeoning genre of
consumer studies, where network science terms and concepts
are invoked with near religious fervor. From Malcolm
Gladwell's three-year-old best seller, "The Tipping Point,"
to just-published analyses like "The Influentials" and
"Branded: The Buying and Selling of Teenagers," the shelves
at Barnes & Noble are laden with books alternately
applauding and deploring the importance of things like
hubs, connectors, mavens and influencer teens for creating
fads, cementing brand loyalty and swelling profits.

"Network theory has become a bit of a fad," Mr. Watts
conceded after hanging up the phone. "I spend half my time
telling people I think it's relevant to a lot of problems
people care about and half my time trying to tone down the
hype."

Network scientists study networks: collections of people or
objects connected to each other in some way. Think of the
1.5 million Manhattan residents or the 30,000 genes inside
a human cell. Such networks, scientists argue, behave in
ways that can't be understood solely in terms of their
component parts. Without knowing what every single person
or object within the network is doing, they say, it's
nevertheless possible to know something about how the
network as a whole behaves.

Stated that way it sounds simple. But as an intellectual
approach, network theory is the latest symptom of a
fundamental shift in scientific thinking, away from a focus
on individual components - particles and subparticles - and
toward a novel conception of the group. As Mr. Barabasi, a
professor of physics at the University of Notre Dame, put
it: "In biology, we've had great success stories - the
human genome, the mouse genome. But what is not talked
about is that we have the pieces but don't have a clue as
to how the system works. Increasingly, we think the answer
is in networks."

Not that network theory is an entirely contemporary
creation. Its roots stretch back nearly 300 years, to
Leonhard Euler, a brilliant 18th-century Swiss
mathematician who dabbled in nearly every branch of modern
science, from algebra to astrophysics. In 1736, Euler took
up a brain teaser that had preoccupied the residents of
Königsberg, a Prussian town on the Pregel River not far
from where he lived: how to cross all seven bridges in town
without crossing the same bridge twice. No one had been
able to pull off the feat, but Euler provided the
mathematical proof that it could not be done. To do so, he
turned the problem into a network, depicting the bridges as
lines and the landmasses they connected as nodes.

After Euler, mathematicians continued to analyze networks,
then called graphs, enumerating the properties of orderly
and static structures like ice crystals and beehives. No
one thought to tackle networks of people or objects that
were, as Mr. Watts puts it in his book, "actually doing
something - generating power, sending data or even making
decisions." Such complex real-world networks were assumed
to be random: nodes and links connected in an arbitrary,
disorderly fashion.

But clearly this is not always the case. "Imagine that you
really did pick your friends at random from the global
population of over six billion," Mr. Watts writes. "You
would be much more likely to be friends with someone on
another continent than someone from your hometown,
workplace or school. Even in a world of global travel and
electronic communications, this is an absurd notion."

Of course, studying a network of six billion people is an
unfathomable proposition. It wasn't until the mid-1990's
and the advent of powerful computers that network
scientists were able to analyze real-life networks of
significant size and complexity. And in doing so, Mr. Watts
and his colleagues made some tantalizing discoveries. By
1998, they had found that networks as diverse as actors,
power grids, the World Wide Web, the proteins in a human
cell and the neurons of a wormlike organism called C.
elegans aren't random at all but obey the same simple,
powerful rules.

For example, whether the network has nearly a billion nodes
(the estimated number of Web pages) or just half a million
(roughly the number of actors in the Internet Movie
Database), the paths between any two nodes tend to be
extremely short - such that, for example, any two movie
actors can be connected by an average of less than four
links.

That may not seem like news to anyone who has played the
Kevin Bacon Game - in which film actors invariably turn out
to have starred in a movie with Mr. Bacon or else with
another actor who has - or seen John Guare's play "Six
Degrees of Separation." (The play was inspired by the
famous 1967 experiment in which the Harvard social
psychologist Stanley Milgram tried to prove that anyone in
America could reach anyone else through a chain of fewer
than six people.) But it was not entirely clear why these
should all be "small-world" networks. As Mr. Watts points
out, "There is nothing similar at all about the detailed
way in which movie actors choose projects and engineers
build transmission lines."

Eerier still, in 1999, Mr. Barabasi and a student at Notre
Dame found that many of these small-world networks are also
what scientists call scale-free. Many natural phenomena,
including traits like height and I.Q., tend to cluster
around an average (producing the familiar bell curve
distribution). By contrast, scale-free networks go in for
extremes: a few hubs - nodes with lots of links - and many
more nodes with hardly any links at all. (Think of Google,
the search engine, as a hub, and your personal homepage -
which probably has just a few links - as an ordinary node.)


Mr. Barabasi's discovery startled scientists. "People
always knew there were networks but thought they were
random," he said. "To know they were nodes linked by hubs
was very unexpected."

It also provoked a frenzy of research. For as Mr. Barabasi
and his collaborator were able to show, the structure of
scale-free networks has important practical implications.
If you remove a few nodes at random, the network can still
function normally. But if you remove one of the hubs, the
results can be catastrophic.

Inspired by this insight, cancer researchers are now homing
in on the cell's hub proteins in order to learn how to
defend them from devastating attacks. Epidemiologists
studying sexually transmitted diseases are arguing that it
makes more sense to identify and treat the hubs in the
transmission network than to give drugs to everyone. "The
Bush administration's policy to give drugs to mothers with
children is completely irrelevant to stopping AIDS in
Africa," Mr. Barabasi said. "It's much better to go and
target the hubs."

Even the United States military has begun recruiting
network theorists to conduct counterterrorism research,
with the goal of learning how to protect information and
economic networks at home and destabilize terrorist
networks abroad.

Yet just which network model describes human society
remains a subject of fierce debate. Mr. Barabasi believes
the human social network is scale-free with the expected
smattering of richly connected hubs. Mr. Watts disagrees.
"If you asked people to list the number of people they
recognize, that could be scale-free, everyone recognizes
Michael Jordan," he said. "But if you said, `Who would you
trust to look after your kids?' That's not scale-free. As
you start to ratchet up the requirements for what it means
to know someone, connections diminish."

Is society a small-world network of the sort Milgram was
interested in? Mr. Watts spent the past year trying to test
that idea, using the Internet as a proxy for the world
population. Whatever the results, he says, it's clear that
human psychology has not yet adapted to the implications of
a connected world.

"We like to think of our world as full of atomized
individuals," he said. "But decisions people make and the
actions they take are so hopelessly entwined with the
behaviors of everyone else that it's difficult to draw the
boundaries around the individual." When it comes to
choosing a CD or explaining the success of Harry Potter,
your preference may matter less than the network's.

But some scholars dismiss the network hypothesis
altogether. Judith S. Kleinfeld, a psychologist at the
University of Alaska at Fairbanks, prompted a flurry of
media attention last year when she published an article
questioning the validity of Milgram's small-world findings.
Given the prevalence of networks - from power grids to
airports to the Internet - it's tempting to assume that
human society is a network as well, she says. But
ultimately, that is impossible to prove.

"Duncan assumes the world is a matrix," Ms. Kleinfeld said
in a telephone interview. "He wants to know how you get
from one point on it to another. But what if the world
isn't a matrix? What if people aren't all connected? What
if they're islands in space?"

Mr. Watts admits that he faces daunting empirical
challenges - and that overzealous scientists are a concern.
"You can turn almost anything into a network," he said,
holding up two papers he had received on the "small world
of human language" and shaking his head. "So what?"

"When I'm brutally honest with myself, I think that if we
can figure this out, we can answer some important
questions. Other times, I think it's just too hard."

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Dear Fellow Socnetters,

I was both enthralled by the NY Times story last week discovering social
network analysis and shocked by the claim that the field only got started
with physicists in the 1990s. Duncan Watts, our recent keynoter, is
prominently quoted, but I don't hold these factual mis-statements against
him, as I've seen newspaper reporters -- including the Times -- do weird
things before (to me).

However, I have sent off the letter below to the NY Times. Perhaps you'd
also like to educate them.

 Barry
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Subject: Erroneous facts

Emily Eakin's story Jan 25 story ("Connect, They Say, Only Connect") makes
a huge factual mistake by saying that network analysis as a discipline
only started when physicists discovered it in the late 1990s. In reality,
it's been going strong since the 1960s, with a substantial body of theory,
method and substance. There are three journals [Social Networks,
Connections - both published since the 1970s; and the Journal of Social
Structure], an annual international and interdisciplinary conference
(happening for about the 30th time next month), and an international
society with about 500 members (the International Network for Social
Network Analysis, which I founded in 1977). It's great that physicists
(and the NY Times) are joining an already flourishing party.

 Barry

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Weren't there a pair of Boorman pieces on social networks in the Times many
years ago, long before the physicists noticed networks? And something on
Moreno a few decades before?

Although, if memory serves (which means it mostly doesn't), those early
articles had something vaguely disturbing in common with the current
physicist-inspired ones -- an arrogant new- science-of-everything sort of
flavor.

Maybe somebody can give the references and I can see if I'm making it all up
...

steve.



----- Original Message -----
From: "Barry Wellman" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 11:05 AM
Subject: Erroneous facts


> *****  To join INSNA, visit http://www.sfu.ca/~insna/  *****
>
> Dear Fellow Socnetters,
>
> I was both enthralled by the NY Times story last week discovering social
> network analysis and shocked by the claim that the field only got started
> with physicists in the 1990s. Duncan Watts, our recent keynoter, is
> prominently quoted, but I don't hold these factual mis-statements against
> him, as I've seen newspaper reporters -- including the Times -- do weird
> things before (to me).
>
> However, I have sent off the letter below to the NY Times. Perhaps you'd
> also like to educate them.
>
>  Barry
>  ___________________________________________________________________
>
>   Barry Wellman        Professor of Sociology       NetLab Director
>   [log in to unmask]   http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/~wellman
>
>   Centre for Urban & Community Studies        University of Toronto
>   455 Spadina Avenue   Toronto Canada M5S 2G8   fax:+1-416-978-7162
>  ___________________________________________________________________
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 11:02:33 -0500
> From: Barry Wellman <[log in to unmask]>
> To: new york times letters <[log in to unmask]>
> Cc: duncan watts <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Erroneous facts
>
> Emily Eakin's story Jan 25 story ("Connect, They Say, Only Connect") makes
> a huge factual mistake by saying that network analysis as a discipline
> only started when physicists discovered it in the late 1990s. In reality,
> it's been going strong since the 1960s, with a substantial body of theory,
> method and substance. There are three journals [Social Networks,
> Connections - both published since the 1970s; and the Journal of Social
> Structure], an annual international and interdisciplinary conference
> (happening for about the 30th time next month), and an international
> society with about 500 members (the International Network for Social
> Network Analysis, which I founded in 1977). It's great that physicists
> (and the NY Times) are joining an already flourishing party.
>
>  Barry
>
>  ___________________________________________________________________
>
>   Barry Wellman        Professor of Sociology       NetLab Director
>   [log in to unmask]   http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/~wellman
>
>   Centre for Urban & Community Studies        University of Toronto
>   455 Spadina Avenue   Toronto Canada M5S 2G8   fax:+1-416-978-7162
>  ___________________________________________________________________
>
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*****  To join INSNA, visit http://www.sfu.ca/~insna/  *****

I often hear from clients, "Wow, you are working on really cool new stuff."  I then tell them that what I am working on is actually older than me -- I'm standing on the shoulders of giants.

I tell them that SNA started in the 1930s with Moreno's sociograms and then accelerated in the 1960s with mainframe computers, kept gathering steam with new research and algorithms in the 1970s and more powerful personal computers/software in the 1980s, became an accepted consulting tool in the 1990s, and really became popular in the last 5 years as the Internet crowd and other sciences started paying attention to connectivity, clusters, embeddedness, emergence, etc. -- the social structure of human behavior.

Valdis

---- Steve Borgatti <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> *****  To join INSNA, visit http://www.sfu.ca/~insna/  *****
>
> Weren't there a pair of Boorman pieces on social networks in the Times many
> years ago, long before the physicists noticed networks? And something on
> Moreno a few decades before?
>
> Although, if memory serves (which means it mostly doesn't), those early
> articles had something vaguely disturbing in common with the current
> physicist-inspired ones -- an arrogant new- science-of-everything sort of
> flavor.
>
> Maybe somebody can give the references and I can see if I'm making it all up
> ...
>
> steve.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Barry Wellman" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 11:05 AM
> Subject: Erroneous facts
>
>
> > *****  To join INSNA, visit http://www.sfu.ca/~insna/  *****
> >
> > Dear Fellow Socnetters,
> >
> > I was both enthralled by the NY Times story last week discovering social
> > network analysis and shocked by the claim that the field only got started
> > with physicists in the 1990s. Duncan Watts, our recent keynoter, is
> > prominently quoted, but I don't hold these factual mis-statements against
> > him, as I've seen newspaper reporters -- including the Times -- do weird
> > things before (to me).
> >
> > However, I have sent off the letter below to the NY Times. Perhaps you'd
> > also like to educate them.
> >
> >  Barry
> >  ___________________________________________________________________
> >
> >   Barry Wellman        Professor of Sociology       NetLab Director
> >   [log in to unmask]   http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/~wellman
> >
> >   Centre for Urban & Community Studies        University of Toronto
> >   455 Spadina Avenue   Toronto Canada M5S 2G8   fax:+1-416-978-7162
> >  ___________________________________________________________________
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 11:02:33 -0500
> > From: Barry Wellman <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: new york times letters <[log in to unmask]>
> > Cc: duncan watts <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Erroneous facts
> >
> > Emily Eakin's story Jan 25 story ("Connect, They Say, Only Connect") makes
> > a huge factual mistake by saying that network analysis as a discipline
> > only started when physicists discovered it in the late 1990s. In reality,
> > it's been going strong since the 1960s, with a substantial body of theory,
> > method and substance. There are three journals [Social Networks,
> > Connections - both published since the 1970s; and the Journal of Social
> > Structure], an annual international and interdisciplinary conference
> > (happening for about the 30th time next month), and an international
> > society with about 500 members (the International Network for Social
> > Network Analysis, which I founded in 1977). It's great that physicists
> > (and the NY Times) are joining an already flourishing party.
> >
> >  Barry
> >
> >  ___________________________________________________________________
> >
> >   Barry Wellman        Professor of Sociology       NetLab Director
> >   [log in to unmask]   http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/~wellman
> >
> >   Centre for Urban & Community Studies        University of Toronto
> >   455 Spadina Avenue   Toronto Canada M5S 2G8   fax:+1-416-978-7162
> >  ___________________________________________________________________
> >
> > _____________________________________________________________________
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yup, except I'd hate to say it all depends on computer tools.
I've learned a lot from deep ethnographies, over the past 40+ years.

 Barry
 ___________________________________________________________________

  Barry Wellman        Professor of Sociology       NetLab Director
  [log in to unmask]   http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/~wellman

  Centre for Urban & Community Studies        University of Toronto
  455 Spadina Avenue   Toronto Canada M5S 2G8   fax:+1-416-978-7162
 ___________________________________________________________________

On Sun, 26 Jan 2003, Valdis Krebs wrote:

> Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 12:09:04 -0500
> From: Valdis Krebs <[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Erroneous facts / NyT article on social networks
>
> *****  To join INSNA, visit http://www.sfu.ca/~insna/  *****
>
> I often hear from clients, "Wow, you are working on really cool new stuff."  I then tell them that what I am working on is actually older than me -- I'm standing on the shoulders of giants.
>
> I tell them that SNA started in the 1930s with Moreno's sociograms and then accelerated in the 1960s with mainframe computers, kept gathering steam with new research and algorithms in the 1970s and more powerful personal computers/software in the 1980s, became an accepted consulting tool in the 1990s, and really became popular in the last 5 years as the Internet crowd and other sciences started paying attention to connectivity, clusters, embeddedness, emergence, etc. -- the social structure of human behavior.
>
> Valdis
>
> ---- Steve Borgatti <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > *****  To join INSNA, visit http://www.sfu.ca/~insna/  *****
> >
> > Weren't there a pair of Boorman pieces on social networks in the Times many
> > years ago, long before the physicists noticed networks? And something on
> > Moreno a few decades before?
> >
> > Although, if memory serves (which means it mostly doesn't), those early
> > articles had something vaguely disturbing in common with the current
> > physicist-inspired ones -- an arrogant new- science-of-everything sort of
> > flavor.
> >
> > Maybe somebody can give the references and I can see if I'm making it all up
> > ...
> >
> > steve.
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Barry Wellman" <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 11:05 AM
> > Subject: Erroneous facts
> >
> >
> > > *****  To join INSNA, visit http://www.sfu.ca/~insna/  *****
> > >
> > > Dear Fellow Socnetters,
> > >
> > > I was both enthralled by the NY Times story last week discovering social
> > > network analysis and shocked by the claim that the field only got started
> > > with physicists in the 1990s. Duncan Watts, our recent keynoter, is
> > > prominently quoted, but I don't hold these factual mis-statements against
> > > him, as I've seen newspaper reporters -- including the Times -- do weird
> > > things before (to me).
> > >
> > > However, I have sent off the letter below to the NY Times. Perhaps you'd
> > > also like to educate them.
> > >
> > >  Barry
> > >  ___________________________________________________________________
> > >
> > >   Barry Wellman        Professor of Sociology       NetLab Director
> > >   [log in to unmask]   http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/~wellman
> > >
> > >   Centre for Urban & Community Studies        University of Toronto
> > >   455 Spadina Avenue   Toronto Canada M5S 2G8   fax:+1-416-978-7162
> > >  ___________________________________________________________________
> > >
> > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > > Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 11:02:33 -0500
> > > From: Barry Wellman <[log in to unmask]>
> > > To: new york times letters <[log in to unmask]>
> > > Cc: duncan watts <[log in to unmask]>
> > > Subject: Erroneous facts
> > >
> > > Emily Eakin's story Jan 25 story ("Connect, They Say, Only Connect") makes
> > > a huge factual mistake by saying that network analysis as a discipline
> > > only started when physicists discovered it in the late 1990s. In reality,
> > > it's been going strong since the 1960s, with a substantial body of theory,
> > > method and substance. There are three journals [Social Networks,
> > > Connections - both published since the 1970s; and the Journal of Social
> > > Structure], an annual international and interdisciplinary conference
> > > (happening for about the 30th time next month), and an international
> > > society with about 500 members (the International Network for Social
> > > Network Analysis, which I founded in 1977). It's great that physicists
> > > (and the NY Times) are joining an already flourishing party.
> > >
> > >  Barry
> > >
> > >  ___________________________________________________________________
> > >
> > >   Barry Wellman        Professor of Sociology       NetLab Director
> > >   [log in to unmask]   http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/~wellman
> > >
> > >   Centre for Urban & Community Studies        University of Toronto
> > >   455 Spadina Avenue   Toronto Canada M5S 2G8   fax:+1-416-978-7162
> > >  ___________________________________________________________________
> > >
> > > _____________________________________________________________________
> > > SOCNET is a service of INSNA, the professional association for social
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> >
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You could back it up even earlier to 1908: Georg Simmel _The web of group
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-----Original Message-----
From: Valdis Krebs [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 10:09 AM
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*****  To join INSNA, visit http://www.sfu.ca/~insna/  *****

I often hear from clients, "Wow, you are working on really cool new stuff."
I then tell them that what I am working on is actually older than me -- I'm
standing on the shoulders of giants.

I tell them that SNA started in the 1930s with Moreno's sociograms and then
accelerated in the 1960s with mainframe computers, kept gathering steam with
new research and algorithms in the 1970s and more powerful personal
computers/software in the 1980s, became an accepted consulting tool in the
1990s, and really became popular in the last 5 years as the Internet crowd
and other sciences started paying attention to connectivity, clusters,
embeddedness, emergence, etc. -- the social structure of human behavior.

Valdis

---- Steve Borgatti <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> *****  To join INSNA, visit http://www.sfu.ca/~insna/  *****
>
> Weren't there a pair of Boorman pieces on social networks in the Times
many
> years ago, long before the physicists noticed networks? And something on
> Moreno a few decades before?
>
> Although, if memory serves (which means it mostly doesn't), those early
> articles had something vaguely disturbing in common with the current
> physicist-inspired ones -- an arrogant new- science-of-everything sort of
> flavor.
>
> Maybe somebody can give the references and I can see if I'm making it all
up
> ...
>
> steve.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Barry Wellman" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 11:05 AM
> Subject: Erroneous facts
>
>
> > *****  To join INSNA, visit http://www.sfu.ca/~insna/  *****
> >
> > Dear Fellow Socnetters,
> >
> > I was both enthralled by the NY Times story last week discovering social
> > network analysis and shocked by the claim that the field only got
started
> > with physicists in the 1990s. Duncan Watts, our recent keynoter, is
> > prominently quoted, but I don't hold these factual mis-statements
against
> > him, as I've seen newspaper reporters -- including the Times -- do weird
> > things before (to me).
> >
> > However, I have sent off the letter below to the NY Times. Perhaps you'd
> > also like to educate them.
> >
> >  Barry
> >  ___________________________________________________________________
> >
> >   Barry Wellman        Professor of Sociology       NetLab Director
> >   [log in to unmask]   http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/~wellman
> >
> >   Centre for Urban & Community Studies        University of Toronto
> >   455 Spadina Avenue   Toronto Canada M5S 2G8   fax:+1-416-978-7162
> >  ___________________________________________________________________
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 11:02:33 -0500
> > From: Barry Wellman <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: new york times letters <[log in to unmask]>
> > Cc: duncan watts <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Erroneous facts
> >
> > Emily Eakin's story Jan 25 story ("Connect, They Say, Only Connect")
makes
> > a huge factual mistake by saying that network analysis as a discipline
> > only started when physicists discovered it in the late 1990s. In
reality,
> > it's been going strong since the 1960s, with a substantial body of
theory,
> > method and substance. There are three journals [Social Networks,
> > Connections - both published since the 1970s; and the Journal of Social
> > Structure], an annual international and interdisciplinary conference
> > (happening for about the 30th time next month), and an international
> > society with about 500 members (the International Network for Social
> > Network Analysis, which I founded in 1977). It's great that physicists
> > (and the NY Times) are joining an already flourishing party.
> >
> >  Barry
> >
> >  ___________________________________________________________________
> >
> >   Barry Wellman        Professor of Sociology       NetLab Director
> >   [log in to unmask]   http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/~wellman
> >
> >   Centre for Urban & Community Studies        University of Toronto
> >   455 Spadina Avenue   Toronto Canada M5S 2G8   fax:+1-416-978-7162
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>You could back it up even earlier to 1908: Georg =
Simmel _The web of group affiliations_</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Steve</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: Valdis Krebs [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">mailto:[log in to unmask]</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 10:09 AM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>To: [log in to unmask]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Subject: Re: Erroneous facts / NyT article on social =
networks</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>I often hear from clients, &quot;Wow, you are working =
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>I tell them that SNA started in the 1930s with =
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Valdis</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>---- Steve Borgatti &lt;[log in to unmask]&gt; =
wrote:</FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Weren't there a pair of Boorman pieces on =
social networks in the Times many</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; years ago, long before the physicists noticed =
networks? And something on</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Moreno a few decades before?</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Although, if memory serves (which means it =
mostly doesn't), those early</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; articles had something vaguely disturbing in =
common with the current</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; physicist-inspired ones -- an arrogant new- =
science-of-everything sort of</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; flavor.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Maybe somebody can give the references and I =
can see if I'm making it all up</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; ...</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; steve.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; ----- Original Message -----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; From: &quot;Barry Wellman&quot; =
&lt;[log in to unmask]&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; To: &lt;[log in to unmask]&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 11:05 AM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Subject: Erroneous facts</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; *****&nbsp; To join INSNA, visit <A =
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<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; Dear Fellow Socnetters,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; I was both enthralled by the NY Times =
story last week discovering social</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; network analysis and shocked by the claim =
that the field only got started</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; with physicists in the 1990s. Duncan =
Watts, our recent keynoter, is</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; prominently quoted, but I don't hold these =
factual mis-statements against</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; him, as I've seen newspaper reporters -- =
including the Times -- do weird</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; things before (to me).</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; However, I have sent off the letter below =
to the NY Times. Perhaps you'd</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; also like to educate them.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;&nbsp; Barry</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;&nbsp; =
___________________________________________________________________</FON=
T>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; Barry =
Wellman&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Professor of =
Sociology&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; NetLab Director</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
[log in to unmask]&nbsp;&nbsp; <A =
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TARGET=3D"_blank">http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/~wellman</A></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; Centre for Urban &amp; =
Community Studies&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; University =
of Toronto</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; 455 Spadina Avenue&nbsp;&nbsp; =
Toronto Canada M5S 2G8&nbsp;&nbsp; fax:+1-416-978-7162</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;&nbsp; =
___________________________________________________________________</FON=
T>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; ---------- Forwarded message =
----------</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 11:02:33 =
-0500</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; From: Barry Wellman =
&lt;[log in to unmask]&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; To: new york times letters =
&lt;[log in to unmask]&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; Cc: duncan watts =
&lt;[log in to unmask]&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; Subject: Erroneous facts</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; Emily Eakin's story Jan 25 story =
(&quot;Connect, They Say, Only Connect&quot;) makes</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; a huge factual mistake by saying that =
network analysis as a discipline</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; only started when physicists discovered it =
in the late 1990s. In reality,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; it's been going strong since the 1960s, =
with a substantial body of theory,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; method and substance. There are three =
journals [Social Networks,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; Connections - both published since the =
1970s; and the Journal of Social</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; Structure], an annual international and =
interdisciplinary conference</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; (happening for about the 30th time next =
month), and an international</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; society with about 500 members (the =
International Network for Social</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; Network Analysis, which I founded in =
1977). It's great that physicists</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; (and the NY Times) are joining an already =
flourishing party.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;&nbsp; Barry</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;&nbsp; =
___________________________________________________________________</FON=
T>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; Barry =
Wellman&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Professor of =
Sociology&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; NetLab Director</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
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<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; Centre for Urban &amp; =
Community Studies&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; University =
of Toronto</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; 455 Spadina Avenue&nbsp;&nbsp; =
Toronto Canada M5S 2G8&nbsp;&nbsp; fax:+1-416-978-7162</FONT>
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  My Times letter. The irony is that Duncan would have willingly filled
her in on the rest of the story if she'd only asked.

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Network Analysis is long-standing
Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 12:29:36 -0500
From: David Gibson <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]



Emily Eakin seems more concerned with spitting out a colorful article on
an amicable Australian
(http://www.nytimes.com/2003/01/25/arts/25WATT.html) who lives up the
street than with doing her homework. She writes: "After Euler...[n]o one
thought to tackle networks of people." In fact, there is an immense body
of research on exactly this topic, dating back several decades. Social
network analysis, a thriving subfield within sociology, has its own
journals, its own conferences, and a large national and international
following. Eakin would only have had to wander around the halls of
Columbia Sociology for a few additional minutes to learn as much.

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<pre>Emily Eakin seems more concerned with spitting out a colorful article on
an amicable Australian
(<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.nytimes.com/2003/01/25/arts/25WATT.html">http://www.nytimes.com/2003/01/25/arts/25WATT.html</a>) who lives up the
street than with doing her homework. She writes: "After Euler...[n]o one
thought to tackle networks of people." In fact, there is an immense body
of research on exactly this topic, dating back several decades. Social
network analysis, a thriving subfield within sociology, has its own
journals, its own conferences, and a large national and international
following. Eakin would only have had to wander around the halls of
Columbia Sociology for a few additional minutes to learn as much.

--
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Assistant Professor
Department of Sociology
Harvard University
536 William James Hall
33 Kirkland Street
Cambridge, MA 02138

Voice: (617) 495-3825
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and to the anthropologists study of kinship networks.

On Sun, 26 Jan 2003, Steven Corman wrote:

> You could back it up even earlier to 1908: Georg Simmel _The web of group
> affiliations_
>
> Steve
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Valdis Krebs [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 10:09 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Erroneous facts / NyT article on social networks
>
>
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> I often hear from clients, "Wow, you are working on really cool new stuff."
> I then tell them that what I am working on is actually older than me -- I'm
> standing on the shoulders of giants.
>
> I tell them that SNA started in the 1930s with Moreno's sociograms and then
> accelerated in the 1960s with mainframe computers, kept gathering steam with
> new research and algorithms in the 1970s and more powerful personal
> computers/software in the 1980s, became an accepted consulting tool in the
> 1990s, and really became popular in the last 5 years as the Internet crowd
> and other sciences started paying attention to connectivity, clusters,
> embeddedness, emergence, etc. -- the social structure of human behavior.
>
> Valdis
>
> ---- Steve Borgatti <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > *****  To join INSNA, visit http://www.sfu.ca/~insna/  *****
> >
> > Weren't there a pair of Boorman pieces on social networks in the Times
> many
> > years ago, long before the physicists noticed networks? And something on
> > Moreno a few decades before?
> >
> > Although, if memory serves (which means it mostly doesn't), those early
> > articles had something vaguely disturbing in common with the current
> > physicist-inspired ones -- an arrogant new- science-of-everything sort of
> > flavor.
> >
> > Maybe somebody can give the references and I can see if I'm making it all
> up
> > ...
> >
> > steve.
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Barry Wellman" <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 11:05 AM
> > Subject: Erroneous facts
> >
> >
> > > *****  To join INSNA, visit http://www.sfu.ca/~insna/  *****
> > >
> > > Dear Fellow Socnetters,
> > >
> > > I was both enthralled by the NY Times story last week discovering social
> > > network analysis and shocked by the claim that the field only got
> started
> > > with physicists in the 1990s. Duncan Watts, our recent keynoter, is
> > > prominently quoted, but I don't hold these factual mis-statements
> against
> > > him, as I've seen newspaper reporters -- including the Times -- do weird
> > > things before (to me).
> > >
> > > However, I have sent off the letter below to the NY Times. Perhaps you'd
> > > also like to educate them.
> > >
> > >  Barry
> > >  ___________________________________________________________________
> > >
> > >   Barry Wellman        Professor of Sociology       NetLab Director
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> > >
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> > >   455 Spadina Avenue   Toronto Canada M5S 2G8   fax:+1-416-978-7162
> > >  ___________________________________________________________________
> > >
> > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > > Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 11:02:33 -0500
> > > From: Barry Wellman <[log in to unmask]>
> > > To: new york times letters <[log in to unmask]>
> > > Cc: duncan watts <[log in to unmask]>
> > > Subject: Erroneous facts
> > >
> > > Emily Eakin's story Jan 25 story ("Connect, They Say, Only Connect")
> makes
> > > a huge factual mistake by saying that network analysis as a discipline
> > > only started when physicists discovered it in the late 1990s. In
> reality,
> > > it's been going strong since the 1960s, with a substantial body of
> theory,
> > > method and substance. There are three journals [Social Networks,
> > > Connections - both published since the 1970s; and the Journal of Social
> > > Structure], an annual international and interdisciplinary conference
> > > (happening for about the 30th time next month), and an international
> > > society with about 500 members (the International Network for Social
> > > Network Analysis, which I founded in 1977). It's great that physicists
> > > (and the NY Times) are joining an already flourishing party.
> > >
> > >  Barry
> > >
> > >  ___________________________________________________________________
> > >
> > >   Barry Wellman        Professor of Sociology       NetLab Director
> > >   [log in to unmask]   http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/~wellman
> > >
> > >   Centre for Urban & Community Studies        University of Toronto
> > >   455 Spadina Avenue   Toronto Canada M5S 2G8   fax:+1-416-978-7162
> > >  ___________________________________________________________________
> > >
> > > _____________________________________________________________________
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On Sun, 2003-01-26 at 11:38, Steve Borgatti wrote:
>
> Although, if memory serves (which means it mostly doesn't), those early
> articles had something vaguely disturbing in common with the current
> physicist-inspired ones -- an arrogant new- science-of-everything sort of
> flavor.


What's more, it's not even true that physicists only discovered networks
in the 90s.  For instance, the whole issue about "scale-free networks"
that they make a lot of in the NYT article, far from being a recent
discovery, was described beautifully in a 1965 article about citation
networks by Derek de Solla Price, who was a theoretical physicist by
training although he made contributions in many fields.  See D. J. de
Solla Price, "Networks of scientific papers", Science 149, 510-515
(1965).  And Rapoport touched on the same ideas even earlier in his work
on friendship networks, although he didn't specifically discuss
power-law degree sequences.

Still, as David Gibson points out, one shouldn't blame Duncan Watts for
this.  In fact, Duncan gives ample credit to the pioneers of the field
in his new book.

Mark Newman.

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The rise of network thinking in anthropology,
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And I have a history of the early INSNA on my website: originally
published in Connections.

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On Sun, 26 Jan 2003, Alvin Wolfe wrote:

> Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 13:51:47 -0500
> From: Alvin Wolfe <[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Rise of Network Thinking
>
> *****  To join INSNA, visit http://www.sfu.ca/~insna/  *****
>
> Sent by: Alvin Wolfe
>
> My 1978 article, The Rise of Network Thinking in Anthropology, answers some of the questions about history.  --Alvin
>
> If the link below is not active or is partially hyperlinked, copy the entire link and paste the URL into the Address/Location box on your browser.
>
> The rise of network thinking in anthropology,
> Social Networks, Volume 1, Issue 1, Pages 53-64 (1978-1979)
> Alvin W. Wolfe
> http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=GatewayURL&_method=citationSearch&_uoikey=B6VD1-4691CFN-4&_origin=EMFR&_version=1&md5=cc90ac7453fceaf3f0e4435348d2cb25
>
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It would be great if we could have some historical links to Alvin Wolfe's
article and/or Barry Wellman's (or others) on the INSNA web site for
scholars to point reporters to.  Having been a newspaper reporter, though,
I can tell you that their attention span is about 1.2 seconds. The time
constraints are just tremendous, so reporters are very reliant on sources
to handfeed them brief background information, and sources need to be
vigilant in providing them (and asking if they read them).  Most newspapers
will allow reporters to read back direct quotations, so scholars should at
a minimum ask (nicely) that this be done -- you can learn a lot about the
direction of the article from how they quote you.

That having been said, reporters are always hunting "the next big thing"
and may not even write the article in the first place if you do such a good
job pointing out your predecessors that your work takes on a warmed over
quality.

At 01:51 PM 1/26/03 -0500, Alvin Wolfe wrote:
>*****  To join INSNA, visit http://www.sfu.ca/~insna/  *****
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>Sent by: Alvin Wolfe
>
>My 1978 article, The Rise of Network Thinking in Anthropology, answers
>some of the questions about history.  --Alvin
>
>If the link below is not active or is partially hyperlinked, copy the
>entire link and paste the URL into the Address/Location box on your browser.
>
>The rise of network thinking in anthropology,
>Social Networks, Volume 1, Issue 1, Pages 53-64 (1978-1979)
>Alvin W. Wolfe
>http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=GatewayURL&_method=citationSearch&_uoikey=B6VD1-4691CFN-4&_origin=EMFR&_version=1&md5=cc90ac7453fceaf3f0e4435348d2cb25
>
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Having opened the NY Times can of words and having read Barabasi's book, I
do think it would be mutually informative if he were invited to Sunbelt 04
and given an hour for a talk and Q&A.

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Another curious aspect:

Why did the story appear under the "Arts" section when the only remotely
artistic thing in the whole story seems to be the network graph?
Interesting editorial choice...

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In a message dated 1/26/2003 4:29:54 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:

> Another curious aspect:
>
> Why did the story appear under the "Arts" section when the only remotely
> artistic thing in the whole story seems to be the network
> graph?
> Interesting editorial choice...

The arts section includes an 'arts and ideas' feature every Saturday on current intellectual life, so I wouldn't make too much of that choice.

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Maybe. There is also a major "Science" section with "Social Science" and
"Physical Science" as legitimate subsections, where the article could have
fitted equally well (and certainly better than where it actually appeared),
though. Interestingly enough, there is a major link from the top-level
"Science" section and no major link from the top-level "Arts" section.
However, there is a minor link from the "THE WEEK IN ARTS" box. So, I think
the editors were a little clueless on what to do with the article, which
deserves some thought. Since this is a ranting thread... :-)



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> In a message dated 1/26/2003 4:29:54 PM Eastern Standard Time,
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> > Another curious aspect:
> >
> > Why did the story appear under the "Arts" section when the only remotely
> > artistic thing in the whole story seems to be the network
> > graph?
> > Interesting editorial choice...
>
> The arts section includes an 'arts and ideas' feature every Saturday on
> current intellectual life, so I wouldn't make too much of that choice.
>
> Steven Sherman
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Mark Newman wrote:
> And Rapoport touched on the same ideas even earlier in his work
> on friendship networks, although he didn't specifically discuss
> power-law degree sequences.
>

Indeed.  For that matter, there was a lot of very wonderful technical
work by physicists, biologists, and others on both social and biological
networks back in the late 1940s/early 1950s in the _Bulletin of
Mathematical Biophysics_ (of which Rapoport's work was part).  My sense
is that there is a fair amount of awareness of this literature within
the modern network community, but I'm not sure to what extent the
"scale-free" crowd is cognizant of it....

> Still, as David Gibson points out, one shouldn't blame Duncan Watts for
> this.  In fact, Duncan gives ample credit to the pioneers of the field
> in his new book.

I also noted that he was quoted as asking people to tone down the
hype....not that I expect the message to sink in.  Looks like we're in
for a bubble/crash cycle here -- I hope someone here is collecting data
on this!

-Carter

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I agree with the injustice that old and current work in social networks
is being ignored.  However, this may be the cost we pay for joining a
larger intellectual community - literature written in our local dialect
is forgotten.  The benefit to us is that there is a great deal of
interest in our field.  Let's take advantage of the opportunities.

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Mark Newman wrote:
> And Rapoport touched on the same ideas even earlier in his work
> on friendship networks, although he didn't specifically discuss
> power-law degree sequences.
>

Indeed.  For that matter, there was a lot of very wonderful technical
work by physicists, biologists, and others on both social and biological
networks back in the late 1940s/early 1950s in the _Bulletin of
Mathematical Biophysics_ (of which Rapoport's work was part).  My sense
is that there is a fair amount of awareness of this literature within
the modern network community, but I'm not sure to what extent the
"scale-free" crowd is cognizant of it....

> Still, as David Gibson points out, one shouldn't blame Duncan Watts
for
> this.  In fact, Duncan gives ample credit to the pioneers of the field
> in his new book.

I also noted that he was quoted as asking people to tone down the
hype....not that I expect the message to sink in.  Looks like we're in
for a bubble/crash cycle here -- I hope someone here is collecting data
on this!

-Carter

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Dr. Freeman can speak for himself, of course, but since he hadn't yet, I
thought I would mention his article in Connections 19(1):39-42  Some
Antecedents of Social Network Analysis.   In it, he describes 6 articles
from 1993 or earlier that focus on the social groupings of children.
 His last two sentences are worth quoting:

"But those of us who come from the sociometric tradition seem to be
pretty much unaware of this parallel line of work; at least we seldom
cite psychologists working in this tradition.  The unfortunate
consequence of this ignorance is that we have had to re-invent many of
the ideas and tools that had already been introduced and adopted in
developmental and educational psychology."

Not to gainsay Dr. Freeman, I just wanted to offer the opinion that
periodic reinventing of the wheel is one of the most important things we
can do.  You just have to remember where you left the last one.

Rich Rothenberg



Phillip Bonacich wrote:

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>
>I agree with the injustice that old and current work in social networks
>is being ignored.  However, this may be the cost we pay for joining a
>larger intellectual community - literature written in our local dialect
>is forgotten.  The benefit to us is that there is a great deal of
>interest in our field.  Let's take advantage of the opportunities.
>
>Phillip Bonacich
>Department of Sociology
>University of California
>Los Angeles, CA 90095
>(310) 825-3017
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Social Networks Discussion Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
>Behalf Of Carter T. Butts
>Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 6:25 PM
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: Erroneous facts / NyT article on social networks
>
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>Mark Newman wrote:
>
>
>>And Rapoport touched on the same ideas even earlier in his work
>>on friendship networks, although he didn't specifically discuss
>>power-law degree sequences.
>>
>>
>>
>
>Indeed.  For that matter, there was a lot of very wonderful technical
>work by physicists, biologists, and others on both social and biological
>networks back in the late 1940s/early 1950s in the _Bulletin of
>Mathematical Biophysics_ (of which Rapoport's work was part).  My sense
>is that there is a fair amount of awareness of this literature within
>the modern network community, but I'm not sure to what extent the
>"scale-free" crowd is cognizant of it....
>
>
>
>>Still, as David Gibson points out, one shouldn't blame Duncan Watts
>>
>>
>for
>
>
>>this.  In fact, Duncan gives ample credit to the pioneers of the field
>>in his new book.
>>
>>
>
>I also noted that he was quoted as asking people to tone down the
>hype....not that I expect the message to sink in.  Looks like we're in
>for a bubble/crash cycle here -- I hope someone here is collecting data
>on this!
>
>-Carter
>
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Dr. Freeman can speak for himself, of course, but since he hadn't yet, I
thought I would mention his article in Connections 19(1):39-42 &nbsp;<i>Some Antecedents
of Social Network Analysis</i>.<i> &nbsp; </i>In it, he describes 6 articles from
1993 or earlier that focus on the social groupings of children. &nbsp;His last
two sentences are worth quoting:<br>
<br>
"But those of us who come from the sociometric tradition seem to be pretty
much unaware of this parallel line of work; at least we seldom cite psychologists
working in this tradition. &nbsp;The unfortunate consequence of this ignorance
is that we have had to re-invent many of the ideas and tools that had already
been introduced and adopted in developmental and educational psychology."<br>
<br>
Not to gainsay Dr. Freeman, I just wanted to offer the opinion that periodic
reinventing of the wheel is one of the most important things we can do. &nbsp;You
just have to remember where you left the last one.<br>
<br>
Rich Rothenberg<br>
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  <pre wrap="">*****  To join INSNA, visit <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.sfu.ca/~insna/">http://www.sfu.ca/~insna/</a>  *****

I agree with the injustice that old and current work in social networks
is being ignored.  However, this may be the cost we pay for joining a
larger intellectual community - literature written in our local dialect
is forgotten.  The benefit to us is that there is a great deal of
interest in our field.  Let's take advantage of the opportunities.

Phillip Bonacich
Department of Sociology
University of California
Los Angeles, CA 90095
(310) 825-3017


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Mark Newman wrote:
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    <pre wrap="">And Rapoport touched on the same ideas even earlier in his work
on friendship networks, although he didn't specifically discuss
power-law degree sequences.

    </pre>
  </blockquote>
  <pre wrap=""><!---->
Indeed.  For that matter, there was a lot of very wonderful technical
work by physicists, biologists, and others on both social and biological
networks back in the late 1940s/early 1950s in the _Bulletin of
Mathematical Biophysics_ (of which Rapoport's work was part).  My sense
is that there is a fair amount of awareness of this literature within
the modern network community, but I'm not sure to what extent the
"scale-free" crowd is cognizant of it....

  </pre>
  <blockquote type="cite">
    <pre wrap="">Still, as David Gibson points out, one shouldn't blame Duncan Watts
    </pre>
  </blockquote>
  <pre wrap=""><!---->for
  </pre>
  <blockquote type="cite">
    <pre wrap="">this.  In fact, Duncan gives ample credit to the pioneers of the field
in his new book.
    </pre>
  </blockquote>
  <pre wrap=""><!---->
I also noted that he was quoted as asking people to tone down the
hype....not that I expect the message to sink in.  Looks like we're in
for a bubble/crash cycle here -- I hope someone here is collecting data
on this!

-Carter

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Perhaps this group never met Duncan, who in fact is both. It's the
reporter we're annoyed at.

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A couple of questions:

(1) what exactly is and is not new in the recent research in scale free
networks?  clearly, the importance of "hubs" has been known for a long
time, although the power law research clearly accents those findings.  As
the e-mails below discuss, there was some work on this going back on "scale
free" type ideas to at least the 1940s, and I've heard some allusions to
work going back to the 1920s.  exactly what was found, however, is still a
vague to me, and certainly had not been part of the core of social network
attention for a while.  Some other power law type research, e.g. city size,
earthquake distribution, war casualty distributions, etc, goes back many
decades, with spikes in attention with the work on "self-organized
criticality" in the 90s, and, before that, on firm size in the econ lit in
the 1950s and 60s.  (I also bet that number of responses to socnet e-mails
is power law distributed, most queries generating few responses, and a few,
such as this generating a large number.)

(2) what networks tend to be scale free, and what networks not?  The
interpersonal data I tend to work with I'm pretty sure tend to be normally
distributed.  Many other kinds of networks, as Barabasi and others have
shown, are power law distributed in in-degree.  If one were to survey
social network data sets, and categorize them by type of distribution of
in-degree, what would the categories be, and what would be the variables
underlying those categories?  Has this been done?

David



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Mark Newman wrote:
> And Rapoport touched on the same ideas even earlier in his work
> on friendship networks, although he didn't specifically discuss
> power-law degree sequences.
>

Indeed.  For that matter, there was a lot of very wonderful technical
work by physicists, biologists, and others on both social and biological
networks back in the late 1940s/early 1950s in the _Bulletin of
Mathematical Biophysics_ (of which Rapoport's work was part).  My sense
is that there is a fair amount of awareness of this literature within
the modern network community, but I'm not sure to what extent the
"scale-free" crowd is cognizant of it....

> Still, as David Gibson points out, one shouldn't blame Duncan Watts for
> this.  In fact, Duncan gives ample credit to the pioneers of the field
> in his new book.

I also noted that he was quoted as asking people to tone down the
hype....not that I expect the message to sink in.  Looks like we're in
for a bubble/crash cycle here -- I hope someone here is collecting data
on this!

-Carter

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A client recently asked me, "What type of networks do you run into in organizations?  Scale-free or Small-world?"  I did an informal browse of about 20 data sets from biz orgs and found many occurrences of a third pattern -- core-periphery!!  [C/P model as described by Borgatti & Everett] So guys, where is YOUR book?

Both S-W and C/P have similar metrics -- short path lengths and high clustering.  Big difference is one[C/P] vs. many[S-W] clusters.  A more complete investigation would be interesting... how many data sets from how many situations would be sufficient?  Sounds like a good thesis topic.

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> (2) what networks tend to be scale free, and what networks not?  The
> interpersonal data I tend to work with I'm pretty sure tend to be normally
> distributed.  Many other kinds of networks, as Barabasi and others have
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> in-degree, what would the categories be, and what would be the variables
> underlying those categories?  Has this been done?

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All,
Yes but everytime we think about this topic we realize the answer is: It
depends on the network being measured.  The same organization will have
an infinite number of networks depending on which network is being measured:
Who goes to whom for advice is one network, but
Who do you think has the most power is another.

- Tom

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> A client recently asked me, "What type of networks do you run into in organizations?  Scale-free or Small-world?"  I did an informal browse of about 20 data sets from biz orgs and found many occurrences of a third pattern -- core-periphery!!  [C/P model as described by Borgatti & Everett] So guys, where is YOUR book?
>
> Both S-W and C/P have similar metrics -- short path lengths and high clustering.  Big difference is one[C/P] vs. many[S-W] clusters.  A more complete investigation would be interesting... how many data sets from how many situations would be sufficient?  Sounds like a good thesis topic.
>
> Valdis
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>>(2) what networks tend to be scale free, and what networks not?  The
>>interpersonal data I tend to work with I'm pretty sure tend to be normally
>>distributed.  Many other kinds of networks, as Barabasi and others have
>>shown, are power law distributed in in-degree.  If one were to survey
>>social network data sets, and categorize them by type of distribution of
>>in-degree, what would the categories be, and what would be the variables
>>underlying those categories?  Has this been done?
>
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On Mon, 27 Jan 2003, David Lazer wrote:


> (2) what networks tend to be scale free, and what networks not?  The
> interpersonal data I tend to work with I'm pretty sure tend to be normally
> distributed.  Many other kinds of networks, as Barabasi and others have
> shown, are power law distributed in in-degree.  If one were to survey
> social network data sets, and categorize them by type of distribution of
> in-degree, what would the categories be, and what would be the variables
> underlying those categories?  Has this been done?


To do this, you would really need a principled statistical method for
comparing an observed distribution to any number of alternative
distributions, and for estimating the parameters of the distributions from
data.  The much cited Nature paper used simple linear regression, which is
completely inappropriate.  Nothing of this sort has been published yet,
but a paper is under review (and getting savaged by the same folks who
think that statisticians only know about normal distributions).

Intuitively, though, the scale free property implies tail behavior that is
physically impossible in social contact networks.  Indeed, it implies that
there is a small, but non-zero, probability that someone can have more
contacts than there are members of the population.  And this property
underlies many of the "newsworthy" analytic results that follow -- i.e.,
that there can be no effective interventions for sexually transmitted
diseases.


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Good point Tom.  I looked at just the Task/Work network in all 20 organizations -- symmetric/confirmed ties.

But, last week I sent out a presentation full of 'product expertise networks' [asymmetric links] and they all looked more scale-free [One, or several, node(s) had many more in-degrees than average].

Valdis


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> All,
> Yes but everytime we think about this topic we realize the answer is: It
> depends on the network being measured.  The same organization will have
> an infinite number of networks depending on which network is being measured:
> Who goes to whom for advice is one network, but
> Who do you think has the most power is another.
>
> - Tom
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> > A client recently asked me, "What type of networks do you run into in organizations?  Scale-free or Small-world?"  I did an informal browse of about 20 data sets from biz orgs and found many occurrences of a third pattern -- core-periphery!!  [C/P model as described by Borgatti & Everett] So guys, where is YOUR book?
> >
> > Both S-W and C/P have similar metrics -- short path lengths and high clustering.  Big difference is one[C/P] vs. many[S-W] clusters.  A more complete investigation would be interesting... how many data sets from how many situations would be sufficient?  Sounds like a good thesis topic.
> >
> > Valdis
> >
> >
> > ---- David Lazer <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>(2) what networks tend to be scale free, and what networks not?  The
> >>interpersonal data I tend to work with I'm pretty sure tend to be normally
> >>distributed.  Many other kinds of networks, as Barabasi and others have
> >>shown, are power law distributed in in-degree.  If one were to survey
> >>social network data sets, and categorize them by type of distribution of
> >>in-degree, what would the categories be, and what would be the variables
> >>underlying those categories?  Has this been done?
> >
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Tom wrote:
|  Yes but everytime we think about this topic we realize the answer is: It
|  depends on the network being measured.  The same organization will have
|  an infinite number of networks depending on which network is being measured:
|  Who goes to whom for advice is one network, but
|  Who do you think has the most power is another.

Reminiscent of the relationship between database query optimizers and
user queries of a database.  Execution of a given query can optimize
on the statistical distribution of (a) stored data and (b) predicted vs. actual performance of user queries on stored data.

Heisenberg-like N-ality (uncertainty) among

    - network
    - measure
    - intervention
    - post-intervention measure
    - non-network (e.g. individual or external) result

is worthy of characterization.

As SNA lenses begin to be pointed at networks by nodes
in said networks, it's not too late to track 1st and 2nd-order
feedback effects [1].

Rich

[1] http://www.santafe.edu/~shalizi/notebooks/ashby.html

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I would reinforce Martina's point in a little less polite way: the idea
that human interaction networks might be scale-free [as opposed to other
systems of orientation among human beings, which can transcend physical
and technological limits: e.g,. the worldwide network of "fame"
attributions may be scale-free] is obviously wrong and reflects the
larger mistake of blindly applying the same principles both to physical
and social systems.

Another thought for this string: if anyone out there doesn't believe in
the Matthew Effect, they certainly have ample proof from the furor over
the small world and scale-free networks.  To the extent that physicists
are credited with having invented network analysis, it tells you more
about the reproduction of status hierarchies than anything else.  And to
the extent that this bothers us, it tells us how inescapable status
hierarchies are.

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On Mon, 27 Jan 2003, David Lazer wrote:


> (2) what networks tend to be scale free, and what networks not?  The
> interpersonal data I tend to work with I'm pretty sure tend to be
normally
> distributed.  Many other kinds of networks, as Barabasi and others
have
> shown, are power law distributed in in-degree.  If one were to survey
> social network data sets, and categorize them by type of distribution
of
> in-degree, what would the categories be, and what would be the
variables
> underlying those categories?  Has this been done?


To do this, you would really need a principled statistical method for
comparing an observed distribution to any number of alternative
distributions, and for estimating the parameters of the distributions
from
data.  The much cited Nature paper used simple linear regression, which
is
completely inappropriate.  Nothing of this sort has been published yet,
but a paper is under review (and getting savaged by the same folks who
think that statisticians only know about normal distributions).

Intuitively, though, the scale free property implies tail behavior that
is
physically impossible in social contact networks.  Indeed, it implies
that
there is a small, but non-zero, probability that someone can have more
contacts than there are members of the population.  And this property
underlies many of the "newsworthy" analytic results that follow -- i.e.,
that there can be no effective interventions for sexually transmitted
diseases.


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Martina and Ezra make some important points about the importance of
interdisciplinary approaches to network models and the sociology of science. In
that context, here is a brief response to David's particular questions.

The notion of "scale free networks" is often used broadly and vaguely. One very
common use focuses on the univariate distribution some characteristic of a
network such as the aggregate distribution of out-degree of the nodes. If the
distribution can be approximately summarized by a measure of level and modest
symmetric variation about that level this literature refers to it as having a
characteristic "scale". Often this is associated with a notion that the
distribution is Gaussian. The term "scale free" is used to describe
distributions that do not have this shape e.g., very non-Gaussian distributions.
Hence networks were the distribution of out-degrees (say) is very right skewed
are often called "scale free networks".

Much confusion occurs because of this. Many people with little experience with
network processes find right-skewed distributions surprising. However, I have
not spoken with a social network person who expected them all to be
approximately Gaussian in shape. In this sense it is not new nor surprising. In
particular, statisticians are bemused by the entire enterprise and write it of
as just more bad science. Statisticians made a cottage industry at the beginning
of last century characterizing discrete distributions to represent such
behavior. I suggest looking at the presidential address of Maurice Kendall in
his 1960 inaugural address to the Royal Statistical Society (on JSTOR JRSS
1961). Kendall reflected that after many years of simple curve fitting exercises
that for statistical modeling in the social sciences to mature as a scientific
discipline,
it must move into tests of processual models.  Unfortunately, this message has
been often been lost in the passage of time and the segmentation of scientific
enterprise.  So here is what is new about "scale free" networks. Some of the
more scientifically people in the "scale free" pool focus on the stochastic
models that may underlay these phenomena, some are getting to the point of
testing them empirically against alternative models. It is still at its early
stages. I should also note that the focus has been on very simple models for the
network (e.g., that it is randomly mixing with respect to the degree
distribution of the nodes). These are unlikely to be true in most real networks
of interest where network structure and attribute based mixing are important.

In musing on your second question: "what networks tend to be scale free, and
what networks not?", the real question is what import is it if, say, the degree
distribution is right-skewed. Or more generally, what can we say usefully about
a network based on characterizing summary statistics like these. In this sense
the social network community has been doing this for a long time. The "scale
free" folks are just getting started.

Mark

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> A couple of questions:
>
> (1) what exactly is and is not new in the recent research in scale free
> networks?  clearly, the importance of "hubs" has been known for a long
> time, although the power law research clearly accents those findings.  As
> the e-mails below discuss, there was some work on this going back on "scale
> free" type ideas to at least the 1940s, and I've heard some allusions to
> work going back to the 1920s.  exactly what was found, however, is still a
> vague to me, and certainly had not been part of the core of social network
> attention for a while.  Some other power law type research, e.g. city size,
> earthquake distribution, war casualty distributions, etc, goes back many
> decades, with spikes in attention with the work on "self-organized
> criticality" in the 90s, and, before that, on firm size in the econ lit in
> the 1950s and 60s.  (I also bet that number of responses to socnet e-mails
> is power law distributed, most queries generating few responses, and a few,
> such as this generating a large number.)
>
> (2) what networks tend to be scale free, and what networks not?  The
> interpersonal data I tend to work with I'm pretty sure tend to be normally
> distributed.  Many other kinds of networks, as Barabasi and others have
> shown, are power law distributed in in-degree.  If one were to survey
> social network data sets, and categorize them by type of distribution of
> in-degree, what would the categories be, and what would be the variables
> underlying those categories?  Has this been done?
>
> David
>
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> Mark Newman wrote:
> > And Rapoport touched on the same ideas even earlier in his work
> > on friendship networks, although he didn't specifically discuss
> > power-law degree sequences.
> >
>
> Indeed.  For that matter, there was a lot of very wonderful technical
> work by physicists, biologists, and others on both social and biological
> networks back in the late 1940s/early 1950s in the _Bulletin of
> Mathematical Biophysics_ (of which Rapoport's work was part).  My sense
> is that there is a fair amount of awareness of this literature within
> the modern network community, but I'm not sure to what extent the
> "scale-free" crowd is cognizant of it....
>
> > Still, as David Gibson points out, one shouldn't blame Duncan Watts for
> > this.  In fact, Duncan gives ample credit to the pioneers of the field
> > in his new book.
>
> I also noted that he was quoted as asking people to tone down the
> hype....not that I expect the message to sink in.  Looks like we're in
> for a bubble/crash cycle here -- I hope someone here is collecting data
> on this!
>
> -Carter
>
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On Mon, 2003-01-27 at 10:29, Martina Morris wrote:
> Intuitively, though, the scale free property implies tail behavior that is
> physically impossible in social contact networks.  Indeed, it implies that
> there is a small, but non-zero, probability that someone can have more
> contacts than there are members of the population.  And this property
> underlies many of the "newsworthy" analytic results that follow -- i.e.,
> that there can be no effective interventions for sexually transmitted
> diseases.

This is a good point.  Further, Pareto-like distributions have
properties in the _lower_ tail which are also clearly false for most
interpersonal networks.  If the world were truly scale-free, then the
population mode would have to consist of the minimum-degree state...more
people would have to have no friends, for instance, than any other
number.[*]  Furthermore, the next most common degree value would have to
be 1, then 2, etc., etc., etc.  This is trivially true for any
monotonically decreasing degree distribution, and is quite incompatible
with most substantively interesting interpersonal relations.  While one
might be able to write-off the limiting behavior in the upper tail as an
approximation, the lower tail behavior accounts for much of the
probability mass of the distribution...thus, it's very difficult to
ignore!  No matter how you slice it, it doesn't fit.

With respect to the question of degree distribution, Elisa Bienenstock
and I have been looking at this too (though we may be too late, which is
OK :-)).  Based on purely preliminary results, the one class of graphs
I've tested for which the power-law could be a vaguely plausible model
is a set of semantic networks.  My guess is that, when the dust settles
on all this, the consensus will be that these models are reasonable for
certain kinds of citation networks and concept networks, but not for
most substantively interesting interpersonal networks.  Time will tell.

-Carter

[*] Unless everyone has at least one friend, in which case 1 would
become the mode.

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Thanks Mark for the clarification and note about what might eventually
be interesting about the scale-free research.  I should say that, when I
said that human interaction networks are obviously not scale-free, I
certainly did not mean to suggest that they are normally distributed.
As we well know from many network studies, indegree is usually skewed to
the right and sometimes very much so (I have even co-authored an obscure
paper that shows this to be the case in a college campus network and
that members of the network misperceive the implications for their
relative popularity).  And yet, as Martina pointed out, there are
obvious limits to how skewed they can be-- limits that do not apply to
such things as the network of hyperlinks that constitute the web.  And
Carter's observations reinforce this point.

A final thought per Mark's example using outdegree: I would hypothesize
that outdegree and indegree are actually pretty different in terms of
their right-skewness. Consider the "fame network" I alluded to [Name
generator asked of all people on the planet about one another: "Please
identify all other people that you recognize."].  I would submit that
indegree will be a lot more right-skewed than outdegree.

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Martina and Ezra make some important points about the importance of
interdisciplinary approaches to network models and the sociology of
science. In
that context, here is a brief response to David's particular questions.

The notion of "scale free networks" is often used broadly and vaguely.
One very
common use focuses on the univariate distribution some characteristic of
a
network such as the aggregate distribution of out-degree of the nodes.
If the
distribution can be approximately summarized by a measure of level and
modest
symmetric variation about that level this literature refers to it as
having a
characteristic "scale". Often this is associated with a notion that the
distribution is Gaussian. The term "scale free" is used to describe
distributions that do not have this shape e.g., very non-Gaussian
distributions.
Hence networks were the distribution of out-degrees (say) is very right
skewed
are often called "scale free networks".

Much confusion occurs because of this. Many people with little
experience with
network processes find right-skewed distributions surprising. However, I
have
not spoken with a social network person who expected them all to be
approximately Gaussian in shape. In this sense it is not new nor
surprising. In
particular, statisticians are bemused by the entire enterprise and write
it of
as just more bad science. Statisticians made a cottage industry at the
beginning
of last century characterizing discrete distributions to represent such
behavior. I suggest looking at the presidential address of Maurice
Kendall in
his 1960 inaugural address to the Royal Statistical Society (on JSTOR
JRSS
1961). Kendall reflected that after many years of simple curve fitting
exercises
that for statistical modeling in the social sciences to mature as a
scientific
discipline,
it must move into tests of processual models.  Unfortunately, this
message has
been often been lost in the passage of time and the segmentation of
scientific
enterprise.  So here is what is new about "scale free" networks. Some of
the
more scientifically people in the "scale free" pool focus on the
stochastic
models that may underlay these phenomena, some are getting to the point
of
testing them empirically against alternative models. It is still at its
early
stages. I should also note that the focus has been on very simple models
for the
network (e.g., that it is randomly mixing with respect to the degree
distribution of the nodes). These are unlikely to be true in most real
networks
of interest where network structure and attribute based mixing are
important.

In musing on your second question: "what networks tend to be scale free,
and
what networks not?", the real question is what import is it if, say, the
degree
distribution is right-skewed. Or more generally, what can we say
usefully about
a network based on characterizing summary statistics like these. In this
sense
the social network community has been doing this for a long time. The
"scale
free" folks are just getting started.

Mark

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> A couple of questions:
>
> (1) what exactly is and is not new in the recent research in scale
free
> networks?  clearly, the importance of "hubs" has been known for a long
> time, although the power law research clearly accents those findings.
As
> the e-mails below discuss, there was some work on this going back on
"scale
> free" type ideas to at least the 1940s, and I've heard some allusions
to
> work going back to the 1920s.  exactly what was found, however, is
still a
> vague to me, and certainly had not been part of the core of social
network
> attention for a while.  Some other power law type research, e.g. city
size,
> earthquake distribution, war casualty distributions, etc, goes back
many
> decades, with spikes in attention with the work on "self-organized
> criticality" in the 90s, and, before that, on firm size in the econ
lit in
> the 1950s and 60s.  (I also bet that number of responses to socnet
e-mails
> is power law distributed, most queries generating few responses, and a
few,
> such as this generating a large number.)
>
> (2) what networks tend to be scale free, and what networks not?  The
> interpersonal data I tend to work with I'm pretty sure tend to be
normally
> distributed.  Many other kinds of networks, as Barabasi and others
have
> shown, are power law distributed in in-degree.  If one were to survey
> social network data sets, and categorize them by type of distribution
of
> in-degree, what would the categories be, and what would be the
variables
> underlying those categories?  Has this been done?
>
> David
>
>
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>
>
>
>
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> Mark Newman wrote:
> > And Rapoport touched on the same ideas even earlier in his work
> > on friendship networks, although he didn't specifically discuss
> > power-law degree sequences.
> >
>
> Indeed.  For that matter, there was a lot of very wonderful technical
> work by physicists, biologists, and others on both social and
biological
> networks back in the late 1940s/early 1950s in the _Bulletin of
> Mathematical Biophysics_ (of which Rapoport's work was part).  My
sense
> is that there is a fair amount of awareness of this literature within
> the modern network community, but I'm not sure to what extent the
> "scale-free" crowd is cognizant of it....
>
> > Still, as David Gibson points out, one shouldn't blame Duncan Watts
for
> > this.  In fact, Duncan gives ample credit to the pioneers of the
field
> > in his new book.
>
> I also noted that he was quoted as asking people to tone down the
> hype....not that I expect the message to sink in.  Looks like we're in
> for a bubble/crash cycle here -- I hope someone here is collecting
data
> on this!
>
> -Carter
>
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Here is a url to the full article, The Rise of Network Thinking in
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Following up:

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>
> Intuitively, though, the scale free property implies tail behavior that is
> physically impossible in social contact networks.  Indeed, it implies that
> there is a small, but non-zero, probability that someone can have more
> contacts than there are members of the population.  And this property
> underlies many of the "newsworthy" analytic results that follow -- i.e.,
> that there can be no effective interventions for sexually transmitted
> diseases.

Many  of the novel "scale free" conclusions rest on properties of their mathematical
approximations to characteristics of the network. As Martina notes the approximations have some unrealistic features. However, almost all models do. The question is: are the claims robust to (even small) deviations from the assumptions.

This is why the process models are important. One mechanism that underlies the (so-called) power law models is something they call "preferential attachment" (i.e., roughly probability of ties proportional to the degree of the nodes, and random mixing otherwise, this would be called a model of
"proportional mixing" by mathematical epidemiologists).  This kind of process has testable implications for an observed degree distribution, When we test them against sexual behavior data the support for the "newsworthy" conclusions appears to be slim(for a glimpse see, e.g., www.csss.washington.edu/Papers/wp23.pdf).  Keep in mind that even if the degree distribution implications can't be rejected we still need to assume that mixing (by degree) is random.  This has not yet been tested, but seems exceedingly unlikely.

In the end, for the "newsworthy" implications to be true, the central issue is not if the networks are "scale free", power law, approximately follow preferential attachment or otherwise, but what can be said about network characteristics that matter for disease transmission.  And it's a lot more difficult to say anything about this if expedient simplistic assumptions do not hold.

Mark

Carter Butts said:
>
> This is a good point.  Further, Pareto-like distributions have
> properties in the _lower_ tail which are also clearly false for most
> interpersonal networks.  If the world were truly scale-free, then the
> population mode would have to consist of the minimum-degree state...more
> people would have to have no friends, for instance, than any other
> number.[*]  Furthermore, the next most common degree value would have to
> be 1, then 2, etc., etc., etc.  This is trivially true for any
> monotonically decreasing degree distribution, and is quite incompatible
> with most substantively interesting interpersonal relations.  While one
> might be able to write-off the limiting behavior in the upper tail as an
> approximation, the lower tail behavior accounts for much of the
> probability mass of the distribution...thus, it's very difficult to
> ignore!  No matter how you slice it, it doesn't fit.
>
> With respect to the question of degree distribution, Elisa Bienenstock
> and I have been looking at this too (though we may be too late, which is
> OK :-)).  Based on purely preliminary results, the one class of graphs
> I've tested for which the power-law could be a vaguely plausible model
> is a set of semantic networks.  My guess is that, when the dust settles
> on all this, the consensus will be that these models are reasonable for
> certain kinds of citation networks and concept networks, but not for
> most substantively interesting interpersonal networks.  Time will tell.
>
> -Carter
>
> [*] Unless everyone has at least one friend, in which case 1 would
> become the mode.

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All:
We follow this list with great interest. Being the lead authors of an "oft
cited Nature paper" recently discussed here, we feel hit by some of the
critique raised, and wish to supplement the following.

We are aware of the problematic assumption of infinite populations. And we
would definitely not claim anything in the line that there are no epidemic
thresholds, and that there can be no effective interventions for sexually
transmitted diseases. Nor in that paper, nor anywhere else. (At least one
of us would loose his job on the spot if we did :-)

We still believe that the degree distribution we reported has practical
implications. Of course, we welcome refined methods and approaches to the
study of social networks, including degree distributions.

Decreasing the incidence of sexually transmitted diseases is an utterly
important societal task. We would be the last to deny that many of the
people on this list take the lead in this struggle. We have a forthcoming
review article on this (the *uncorrected* proof available at Microbes and
Infection journal).

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Questions for Sunbelt Session On Ethics of Network Data Collection
There will be a session led by me (Charles Kadushin) on this topic. I would
appreciate thought being given to the following issues. Please do not reply
on line, but if you can, come to the session with your thoughts. After
Cancun, I will summarize the discussion and raise the issues again for on
line discussion, following up on a previous flurry of on-line discussion.

Unlike most social science observation, social network data in principle
require tracking individual respondents or organizations (units) and their
interrelationships. Under what circumstances can individual unit identities
be revealed and when ought they not to be revealed? Some data are public
data to begin with, but even here there is an issue over the adequacy of
social network analyses to pinpoint the network location of individual
units with sufficient accuracy to take actions that have repercussions for
those units. Moreno, who invented sociometry, insisted that it was not
valid unless subjects knew that their answers would have consequences.
Since Moreno, the general tendency has been not to reveal individual
identities. The famous "Bank Wiring Room" omitted details that would have
revealed the identity of subjects. A practical issue is the reaction of
literate "natives" to the revelation of the details of their interrelations.

Some questions for discussion:
1.      What are the personal experiences of session participants in data
collection: that is, what kinds of data have you collected, when, and under
what circumstances?
2.      Inherent in this question is: (a) are there different consequences
for different kinds of data collection; (b) in your experience, has the
climate and nature of network data collection changed over the past 20
years  or whatever time frame your experience encompasses; (c) what
differences has the context made: e.g. academic research, or government or
corporate clients.
3.      What have been your own policies about confidentially or disclosure
under different circumstances? Have they changed over the years?
4.      What has been the reaction of respondents to networks questions?
5.      What has been the reaction of clients and people studied to the
publication of your reports on the research? Do you prepare one kind of
report for clients and another for general distribution?
6.      If members of an organization have been the subjects of the
research, what kind of report should be made to them? Is it different from
the report that is made to those who paid for the research?
7.      What about data based on publicly available data? Does it make a
difference if the data are such that considerable processing is required or
if the data are basically in a form that can be readily used for network
analyses?
8.      Are there special considerations for defense or law enforcement
analyses or consultation?
9.      What have been your experiences with Institutional Review Boards?
10.     Is there a bottom line to this discussion? General principles?
Should INSNA take a formal stand on any of these issues?

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There are two issues here: one is failure to give credit where it's due
and the other is the actual validity of the work.  I'm just finishing up
a lengthy review article on recent work on networks by mathematicians
and physicists, and although I thought I knew this literature quite well
before I started, I have learned a lot by reading up for the review.  I
agree completely that people have in some cases failed to give credit
for earlier innovations, and this is bad.  But it would be a mistake to
dismiss this work out of hand.  There is a great deal there that would
be of interest to all of us.

In particular response to Mark Handcock's post about "scale-free
networks", I think it would certainly be a mistake to claim that the
physics models, like the "preferential attachment" models, are complete
models of the structure of networks.  Of course there are many different
processes going on in network formation, most of which are absent from
these models.  Therefore, if one compares these simple models to
sociometric data, it's virtually certain they won't match up, and Mark's
work demonstrates this elegantly.  This however doesn't make the models
useless.  There's much to be learned from them, even if they are
incomplete (or maybe even plain wrong).  At the very least, they've
stirred up a whole new community to get interested in network ideas, and
surely that can't be all bad.

Mark Newman.

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Dear all,

I'm in search for recent publications about collaboration networks in
science & technology measured by co-authorship in basic and applied
science journals. Using a literature database I got two articles:

Persson, O.; Beckman, M. (1995): Locating the network of interacting authors
in scientific specialities,  Scientometrics 3 (3): 351-366.
Newman, M. E. J. (2001): Scientific collaboration networks. I. Network
construction and fundamental results. In: Physical Review E, 64

Does anybody know other recent and interesting publications in this field?

Regards,
Thomas


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On Tue, 2003-01-28 at 14:12, Heinze, Thomas wrote:
>
> I'm in search for recent publications about collaboration networks in
> science & technology measured by co-authorship in basic and applied
> science journals...
>
> Does anybody know other recent and interesting publications in this field?


The following are worth a look.


J. W. Grossman and P. D. F. Ion, "On a portion of the well-known
collaboration graph", Congressus Numerantium 108, 129-131 (1995).

G. Melin and O. Persson, "Studying research collaboration using
co-authorships" Scientometrics 36, 363-377 (1996)

M. Bordens and I. Gomez, "Collaboration networks in science", in "The
Web of Knowledge: A Festschrift in Honor of Eugene Garfield", H. B.
Atkins and B. Cronin (eds)., Information Today, Medford, NJ (2000)

V. Batagelj and A. Mrvar, "Some analyses of Erdos collaboration graph",
Social Networks 22, 173-186 (2000)

M. E. J. Newman, "The structure of scientific collaboration networks",
Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences 98, 404-409 (2001)


Mark Newman.

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Hello all,

Help needed. I have been trying to find citations supporting the statement
that in times of social and economic transition individuals rely more on
their personal networks rather than on formal institutions in their economic
activities, and in particular in job searches. But my efforts were
unsuccessful. From what I have found I got the impression that authors
assume it to be a well-known social fact and do not cite any important works
that have provided support for it's truthfulness. Any help with citations on
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One further plea for recognition of previous work here.  The "preferential
attachment model" is what mathematical epidemiologists call "proportional
mixing".  It was the starting point for epidemic modeling in the mid
1980s.  Prior work had milked this assumption for all it was worth to get
analytical solutions to epidemic models.  But there was a small body of
work that began to hack away at the much harder problem of getting
solutions when mixing was not proportional.  Not much in the way of
analytic solutions was found, so most of the applied research used
simulation instead.

For the people working in this area, the idea of deriving the properties
of transmission systems under proportional mixing seems like a real blast
from the past.  Of course it can be done, it's just not clear why you
would want to.  At least, not if you were interested in understanding the
population dynamics of sexually transmitted infections.  In that context,
the assumption is just wrong, and it matters.

On Tue, 28 Jan 2003, Mark Newman wrote:

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>
> There are two issues here: one is failure to give credit where it's due
> and the other is the actual validity of the work.  I'm just finishing up
> a lengthy review article on recent work on networks by mathematicians
> and physicists, and although I thought I knew this literature quite well
> before I started, I have learned a lot by reading up for the review.  I
> agree completely that people have in some cases failed to give credit
> for earlier innovations, and this is bad.  But it would be a mistake to
> dismiss this work out of hand.  There is a great deal there that would
> be of interest to all of us.
>
> In particular response to Mark Handcock's post about "scale-free
> networks", I think it would certainly be a mistake to claim that the
> physics models, like the "preferential attachment" models, are complete
> models of the structure of networks.  Of course there are many different
> processes going on in network formation, most of which are absent from
> these models.  Therefore, if one compares these simple models to
> sociometric data, it's virtually certain they won't match up, and Mark's
> work demonstrates this elegantly.  This however doesn't make the models
> useless.  There's much to be learned from them, even if they are
> incomplete (or maybe even plain wrong).  At the very least, they've
> stirred up a whole new community to get interested in network ideas, and
> surely that can't be all bad.
>
> Mark Newman.
>
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Howard White and I have just completed a working paper on the intersection
of social networks and citation networks. It's on my website.

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On Tue, 28 Jan 2003, Heinze, Thomas wrote:

> Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 20:12:43 +0100
> From: "Heinze, Thomas" <[log in to unmask]>
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> Subject: Collaboration (co-authorship) networks
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> Dear all,
>
> I'm in search for recent publications about collaboration networks in
> science & technology measured by co-authorship in basic and applied
> science journals. Using a literature database I got two articles:
>
> Persson, O.; Beckman, M. (1995): Locating the network of interacting authors
> in scientific specialities,  Scientometrics 3 (3): 351-366.
> Newman, M. E. J. (2001): Scientific collaboration networks. I. Network
> construction and fundamental results. In: Physical Review E, 64
>
> Does anybody know other recent and interesting publications in this field?
>
> Regards,
> Thomas
>
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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I just reached Buenos Aires for a week to help start a study on social
influences on sexual and social networks, and drug user networks, in a
poor neighborhood in a time of transition and turmoil.  We will be
working on the questionnaire over the next 2 or 3 months.

I would like any ideas on either Olga´s question or those raised by my
study.

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National Development and Research Institutes
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USA
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>>> Olga Mayorova <[log in to unmask]> 01/28/03 14:45 PM >>>
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Hello all,

Help needed. I have been trying to find citations supporting the
statement
that in times of social and economic transition individuals rely more on
their personal networks rather than on formal institutions in their
economic
activities, and in particular in job searches. But my efforts were
unsuccessful. From what I have found I got the impression that authors
assume it to be a well-known social fact and do not cite any important
works
that have provided support for it's truthfulness. Any help with
citations on
this topic will be greatly appreciated.

Thank you,

Olga

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Dear Olga,

There is already quite much work on social networks in
transition societies and particularly in Russia. Though most of
the literature is not directly related to job search, they stress
the importance of personal/social networks in USSR and post-
Soviet Russia. The following list is by no means complete:

1. You must be aware of Alena Ledeneva’s book ‘Russia’s
economy of favours. Blat, networking and informal Exchange’
(Cambridge University Press, 1998).

2. See also Ledeneva’s, Gerald Easter’s and others’ fresh
articles in Klaus Segbers (ed.) ‘Explaining Post-Soviet
Patchworks, Volume 2. Pathways form the past to the
global.’ (Ashgate 2001 – see also the two other volumes of
the series)

3. Check out Barry Wellman’s and Endre Sik’s article in
’Networks in the global village’ (Westview Press, 1999)

4. I have myself studied the personal networks in Russia for
quite a while. See for instance my dissertation: Lonkila,
Markku (1999): Social Networks in Post-Soviet Russia.
Continuity and Change in the Everyday Life of St. Petersburg
Teachers Helsinki:Kikimora Publications. The introduction
and methodological appendix of the dissertation are accessible
through internet:
({ HYPERLINK "http://ethesis.helsinki.fi/julkaisut/val/sosio/vk/lonkila/" }http://ethesis.helsinki.fi/julkaisut/val/sosio/vk/lonkila/

One of the articles of the dissertation is also available online,
see:

Lonkila, Markku (1997): ‘Informal Exchange Relations in
Post-Soviet Russia: A Comparative Perspective’. Sociological
Research Online, vol. 2, no. 2. (The article is accessible
through internet at:
{ HYPERLINK "http://www.socresonline.org.uk/socresonline/2/2/9.html" }http://www.socresonline.org.uk/socresonline/2/2/9.html)

You could also check out the bibliography of another of my
article: Lonkila, Markku: ‘Russia: A Society of Networks?’ In
Markku Kangaspuro (ed.) Russia: More different than most.
Helsinki: Kikimora publications, 2000. There you’ll find
references to the works by Valeri Yakubovich, Richard Rose
etc. prior to 2000.

For more info on my work, see:

{ HYPERLINK "http://www.valt.helsinki.fi/staff/lonkila/pub.htm" }http://www.valt.helsinki.fi/staff/lonkila/pub.htm

Best wishes,

Markku Lonkila


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>
> Hello all,
>
> Help needed. I have been trying to find citations supporting the statement
> that in times of social and economic transition individuals rely more on
> their personal networks rather than on formal institutions in their economic
> activities, and in particular in job searches. But my efforts were
> unsuccessful. From what I have found I got the impression that authors
> assume it to be a well-known social fact and do not cite any important works
> that have provided support for it's truthfulness. Any help with citations on
> this topic will be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Olga
>
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Hi,
HI,

Check out Endre Sik (with Hungarian data)  & Vicente Espinoza's (with Latin American data) articles in Barry Wellman's book: Networks in the Global Village (Boulder, CO: Westview Press)

In addition, research from the development literature (especially, those relating to responses to IMF/World Bank's structural adjustment policies) show how networks can be used to gain access to scarce but neccessary resources (food, shelter and clothing).  I don't have references right on hand, but can dig further.

/Em

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>>> Sam Friedman <[log in to unmask]> 01/29/03 07:58am >>>
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I just reached Buenos Aires for a week to help start a study on social
influences on sexual and social networks, and drug user networks, in a
poor neighborhood in a time of transition and turmoil.  We will be
working on the questionnaire over the next 2 or 3 months.

I would like any ideas on either Olga s question or those raised by my
study.

Sam Friedman
National Development and Research Institutes
71 West 23d Street, 8th floor
New York, NY 10010
USA
1 212 845 4467
Fax 1 917 438 0894
[log in to unmask]
>>> Olga Mayorova <[log in to unmask]> 01/28/03 14:45 PM >>>
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Hello all,

Help needed. I have been trying to find citations supporting the
statement
that in times of social and economic transition individuals rely more on
their personal networks rather than on formal institutions in their
economic
activities, and in particular in job searches. But my efforts were
unsuccessful. From what I have found I got the impression that authors
assume it to be a well-known social fact and do not cite any important
works
that have provided support for it's truthfulness. Any help with
citations on
this topic will be greatly appreciated.

Thank you,

Olga

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Another relevant cite is Valery Yakubovich's work on networks in the
Russian labor market.  See:
http://gsbwww.uchicago.edu/fac/valery.yakubovich/research


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Dear Olga,

There is already quite much work on social networks in
transition societies and particularly in Russia. Though most of
the literature is not directly related to job search, they stress
the importance of personal/social networks in USSR and post-
Soviet Russia. The following list is by no means complete:

1. You must be aware of Alena Ledeneva's book 'Russia's
economy of favours. Blat, networking and informal Exchange'
(Cambridge University Press, 1998).

2. See also Ledeneva's, Gerald Easter's and others' fresh
articles in Klaus Segbers (ed.) 'Explaining Post-Soviet
Patchworks, Volume 2. Pathways form the past to the
global.' (Ashgate 2001 - see also the two other volumes of
the series)

3. Check out Barry Wellman's and Endre Sik's article in
'Networks in the global village' (Westview Press, 1999)

4. I have myself studied the personal networks in Russia for
quite a while. See for instance my dissertation: Lonkila,
Markku (1999): Social Networks in Post-Soviet Russia.
Continuity and Change in the Everyday Life of St. Petersburg
Teachers Helsinki:Kikimora Publications. The introduction
and methodological appendix of the dissertation are accessible
through internet:
({ HYPERLINK
"http://ethesis.helsinki.fi/julkaisut/val/sosio/vk/lonkila/"
}http://ethesis.helsinki.fi/julkaisut/val/sosio/vk/lonkila/

One of the articles of the dissertation is also available online,
see:

Lonkila, Markku (1997): 'Informal Exchange Relations in
Post-Soviet Russia: A Comparative Perspective'. Sociological
Research Online, vol. 2, no. 2. (The article is accessible
through internet at:
{ HYPERLINK "http://www.socresonline.org.uk/socresonline/2/2/9.html"
}http://www.socresonline.org.uk/socresonline/2/2/9.html)

You could also check out the bibliography of another of my
article: Lonkila, Markku: 'Russia: A Society of Networks?' In
Markku Kangaspuro (ed.) Russia: More different than most.
Helsinki: Kikimora publications, 2000. There you'll find
references to the works by Valeri Yakubovich, Richard Rose
etc. prior to 2000.

For more info on my work, see:

{ HYPERLINK "http://www.valt.helsinki.fi/staff/lonkila/pub.htm"
}http://www.valt.helsinki.fi/staff/lonkila/pub.htm

Best wishes,

Markku Lonkila


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> *****  To join INSNA, visit http://www.sfu.ca/~insna/  *****
>
> Hello all,
>
> Help needed. I have been trying to find citations supporting the
statement
> that in times of social and economic transition individuals rely more
on
> their personal networks rather than on formal institutions in their
economic
> activities, and in particular in job searches. But my efforts were
> unsuccessful. From what I have found I got the impression that authors
> assume it to be a well-known social fact and do not cite any important
works
> that have provided support for it's truthfulness. Any help with
citations on
> this topic will be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Olga
>
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Also check out:
Beate Volker, "Should auld acquaintance be forgot...?: Institutions
of Communism, the Transition to Capitalism and Personal
Networks: The Case of East Germany", Amsterdam Thesis
Publishers, 1995.

She found that in former East Germany personal networks shrunk
somewhat during transition.

Kate


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Hi,
HI,

Check out Endre Sik (with Hungarian data)  & Vicente Espinoza's (with Latin American data) articles in Barry Wellman's book: Networks in the Global Village (Boulder, CO: Westview Press)

In addition, research from the development literature (especially, those relating to responses to IMF/World Bank's structural adjustment policies) show how networks can be used to gain access to scarce but neccessary resources (food, shelter and clothing).  I don't have references right on hand,
but can dig further.

/Em

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Toronto Public Health, Policy and Planning
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>>> Sam Friedman <[log in to unmask]> 01/29/03 07:58am >>>
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I just reached Buenos Aires for a week to help start a study on social
influences on sexual and social networks, and drug user networks, in a
poor neighborhood in a time of transition and turmoil.  We will be
working on the questionnaire over the next 2 or 3 months.

I would like any ideas on either Olga s question or those raised by my
study.

Sam Friedman
National Development and Research Institutes
71 West 23d Street, 8th floor
New York, NY 10010
USA
1 212 845 4467
Fax 1 917 438 0894
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>>> Olga Mayorova <[log in to unmask]> 01/28/03 14:45 PM >>>
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Hello all,

Help needed. I have been trying to find citations supporting the
statement
that in times of social and economic transition individuals rely more on
their personal networks rather than on formal institutions in their
economic
activities, and in particular in job searches. But my efforts were
unsuccessful. From what I have found I got the impression that authors
assume it to be a well-known social fact and do not cite any important
works
that have provided support for it's truthfulness. Any help with
citations on
this topic will be greatly appreciated.

Thank you,

Olga

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Cate and Beate,
This raises an interesting research question:
Do networks shrink and rise in step with the economy?

Bigger GNP > bigger nets
Biggern nets > Bigger GDP
?

 Barry
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On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Catherine Johnson wrote:

> Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 11:19:27 -0500
> From: Catherine Johnson <[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: transition and personal networks
>
> *****  To join INSNA, visit http://www.sfu.ca/~insna/  *****
>
> Also check out:
> Beate Volker, "Should auld acquaintance be forgot...?: Institutions
> of Communism, the Transition to Capitalism and Personal
> Networks: The Case of East Germany", Amsterdam Thesis
> Publishers, 1995.
>
> She found that in former East Germany personal networks shrunk
> somewhat during transition.
>
> Kate
>
>
> Date sent:              Wed, 29 Jan 2003 11:00:51 -0500
> Send reply to:          Emmanuel Koku <[log in to unmask]>
> From:                   Emmanuel Koku <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject:                Re: transition and personal networks
> To:                     [log in to unmask]
>
> *****  To join INSNA, visit http://www.sfu.ca/~insna/  *****
>
> Hi,
> HI,
>
> Check out Endre Sik (with Hungarian data)  & Vicente Espinoza's (with Latin American data) articles in Barry Wellman's book: Networks in the Global Village (Boulder, CO: Westview Press)
>
> In addition, research from the development literature (especially, those relating to responses to IMF/World Bank's structural adjustment policies) show how networks can be used to gain access to scarce but neccessary resources (food, shelter and clothing).  I don't have references right on hand,
> but can dig further.
>
> /Em
>
> ===========================================================================
> Emmanuel Koku
> Research Consultant - Sexual Health
> Toronto Public Health, Policy and Planning
> 175 Memorial Park Avenue
> Toronto, Ontario.  M4J 4Y6
> Tel:  416 - 338 - 0905
> [log in to unmask]
> ==========================================================================
>
> >>> Sam Friedman <[log in to unmask]> 01/29/03 07:58am >>>
> *****  To join INSNA, visit http://www.sfu.ca/~insna/  *****
>
> I just reached Buenos Aires for a week to help start a study on social
> influences on sexual and social networks, and drug user networks, in a
> poor neighborhood in a time of transition and turmoil.  We will be
> working on the questionnaire over the next 2 or 3 months.
>
> I would like any ideas on either Olga s question or those raised by my
> study.
>
> Sam Friedman
> National Development and Research Institutes
> 71 West 23d Street, 8th floor
> New York, NY 10010
> USA
> 1 212 845 4467
> Fax 1 917 438 0894
> [log in to unmask]
> >>> Olga Mayorova <[log in to unmask]> 01/28/03 14:45 PM >>>
> *****  To join INSNA, visit http://www.sfu.ca/~insna/  *****
>
> Hello all,
>
> Help needed. I have been trying to find citations supporting the
> statement
> that in times of social and economic transition individuals rely more on
> their personal networks rather than on formal institutions in their
> economic
> activities, and in particular in job searches. But my efforts were
> unsuccessful. From what I have found I got the impression that authors
> assume it to be a well-known social fact and do not cite any important
> works
> that have provided support for it's truthfulness. Any help with
> citations on
> this topic will be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Olga
>
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Barry,
My Mongolian networks (average of 15 alters) are bigger than
former E. German Networks (average of 10.6) and contain many
more friendship ties and acquaintanceship ties.  I don't know
whether this is because of the economy (which is pretty awful) or
maybe because Mongolians are a more sociable lot. Most of my
respondents' ties were not geographically close, but scattered all
over the city of Ulaanbaatar.

Cheers,
Kate


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Cate and Beate,
This raises an interesting research question:
Do networks shrink and rise in step with the economy?

Bigger GNP > bigger nets
Biggern nets > Bigger GDP
?

 Barry
 ___________________________________________________________________

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  [log in to unmask]   http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/~wellman

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On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Catherine Johnson wrote:

> Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 11:19:27 -0500
> From: Catherine Johnson <[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: transition and personal networks
>
> *****  To join INSNA, visit http://www.sfu.ca/~insna/  *****
>
> Also check out:
> Beate Volker, "Should auld acquaintance be forgot...?: Institutions
> of Communism, the Transition to Capitalism and Personal
> Networks: The Case of East Germany", Amsterdam Thesis
> Publishers, 1995.
>
> She found that in former East Germany personal networks shrunk
> somewhat during transition.
>
> Kate
>
>
> Date sent:              Wed, 29 Jan 2003 11:00:51 -0500
> Send reply to:          Emmanuel Koku <[log in to unmask]>
> From:                   Emmanuel Koku <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject:                Re: transition and personal networks
> To:                     [log in to unmask]
>
> *****  To join INSNA, visit http://www.sfu.ca/~insna/  *****
>
> Hi,
> HI,
>
> Check out Endre Sik (with Hungarian data)  & Vicente Espinoza's (with Latin American data) articl
es in Barry Wellman's book: Networks in the Global Village (Boulder, CO: Westview Press)
>
> In addition, research from the development literature (especially, those relating to responses to
 IMF/World Bank's structural adjustment policies) show how networks can be used to gain access to s
carce but neccessary resources (food, shelter and clothing).  I don't have references right on hand
,
> but can dig further.
>
> /Em
>
> ===========================================================================
> Emmanuel Koku
> Research Consultant - Sexual Health
> Toronto Public Health, Policy and Planning
> 175 Memorial Park Avenue
> Toronto, Ontario.  M4J 4Y6
> Tel:  416 - 338 - 0905
> [log in to unmask]
> ==========================================================================
>
> >>> Sam Friedman <[log in to unmask]> 01/29/03 07:58am >>>
> *****  To join INSNA, visit http://www.sfu.ca/~insna/  *****
>
> I just reached Buenos Aires for a week to help start a study on social
> influences on sexual and social networks, and drug user networks, in a
> poor neighborhood in a time of transition and turmoil.  We will be
> working on the questionnaire over the next 2 or 3 months.
>
> I would like any ideas on either Olga s question or those raised by my
> study.
>
> Sam Friedman
> National Development and Research Institutes
> 71 West 23d Street, 8th floor
> New York, NY 10010
> USA
> 1 212 845 4467
> Fax 1 917 438 0894
> [log in to unmask]
> >>> Olga Mayorova <[log in to unmask]> 01/28/03 14:45 PM >>>
> *****  To join INSNA, visit http://www.sfu.ca/~insna/  *****
>
> Hello all,
>
> Help needed. I have been trying to find citations supporting the
> statement
> that in times of social and economic transition individuals rely more on
> their personal networks rather than on formal institutions in their
> economic
> activities, and in particular in job searches. But my efforts were
> unsuccessful. From what I have found I got the impression that authors
> assume it to be a well-known social fact and do not cite any important
> works
> that have provided support for it's truthfulness. Any help with
> citations on
> this topic will be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Olga
>
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What was the nature of the lost ties; e.g., weak ties lost first?  Has
anyone done work on strategies for shrinking nets?

Doug Bryan
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> Catherine Johnson wrote,
>
> Also check out:
> Beate Volker, "Should auld acquaintance be forgot...?: Institutions
> of Communism, the Transition to Capitalism and Personal
> Networks: The Case of East Germany", Amsterdam Thesis
> Publishers, 1995.
>
> She found that in former East Germany personal networks shrunk
> somewhat during transition.

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Some companies are under suspicion because some of their investors'
contacts have suspect ties.  One exasperated executive asks,   "How far
are we going to go with making links between people?"

News story:
http://www.computerworld.com/securitytopics/security/story/0,10801,77887,00.html

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Dear all,

thanks for your answers. As usual, a list of what I received is attached.
The compilation is certainly not exhaustive, but a good starting point,
isn't it? ;-)

Regards,
Thomas


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Dear all (Kate, Barry, socnetters...)
I think that it could be: bigger GNP - bigger networks but the explaining
mechnism is not the economy.
What I found in my dissertation was that people start relationships if they
know about the future, or are not too uncertain about what will be. In East
Germany during the tranisiton it became very difficult for the inhabitants
to become aware of their interests and their future goals: value of
education changed, the currency changed, the country was overrolled with
'western' products, traffic rules changed and so on. Past insights, values
(or investments) became questionable.
Further: the organization of meetings changed: in East Germany, daily life
was highly organized and structured by state institutions. Think of all the
committees at work, neighborhood, for leisure time etc. These organizations
ceased to exist and people had to arrange cotnacts much more by themselves.
These circumstances made it difficult to engage in new relationships.
Furthermore, because of the strong organization and the high political
control, trustworthiness became an important issue in relationships in the
former GDR. Speaking about politics was occurred only in relations to those
with whom one also could talk about important personal matters. In an
article together with Henk Flap in Rationality and Society in (2001) we
tried to show that people therefore created highly dense core networks (we
called it: niches), the 'forbidden triad' did only rarely occur. This
changed after the political trunover.

People also broke up a number of ties, mainly ties to those they did not
really trust during the socialist system. These were ties partially ties to
neighbors (as far as you can break them, but they tried to avoid becoming
involved in any activity) but also ties that were mainly instrumental: ties
that helped to compensate for the shortage of all kind of commodities,the
ties that made for the informal economy. A majority of these ties have been
quite weak - their main function was the exchange of commodities.

To make a long story shorter: During the transition in the former GDR (I
refer to the time period between 1989 and 1994) people did not engage in new
relationship because they were uncertain about their future. They broke
relationships to those who were not trustworthy and merely instrumental for
the exchange of goods short in supply.
You see, I start telling you a long story... I hope I do not bore you.

I would be glad to discuss these or related issues with you,
kind regards,

Beate Volker



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-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: Barry Wellman [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Verzonden: woensdag 29 januari 2003 17:46
Aan: Beatte Volker; Catherine Johnson
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Onderwerp: Re: transition and personal networks


Cate and Beate,
This raises an interesting research question:
Do networks shrink and rise in step with the economy?

Bigger GNP > bigger nets
Biggern nets > Bigger GDP
?

 Barry
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On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Catherine Johnson wrote:

> Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 11:19:27 -0500
> From: Catherine Johnson <[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: transition and personal networks
>
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> Also check out:
> Beate Volker, "Should auld acquaintance be forgot...?: Institutions
> of Communism, the Transition to Capitalism and Personal
> Networks: The Case of East Germany", Amsterdam Thesis
> Publishers, 1995.
>
> She found that in former East Germany personal networks shrunk
> somewhat during transition.
>
> Kate
>
>
> Date sent:              Wed, 29 Jan 2003 11:00:51 -0500
> Send reply to:          Emmanuel Koku <[log in to unmask]>
> From:                   Emmanuel Koku <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject:                Re: transition and personal networks
> To:                     [log in to unmask]
>
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> Hi,
> HI,
>
> Check out Endre Sik (with Hungarian data)  & Vicente Espinoza's (with
Latin American data) articles in Barry Wellman's book: Networks in the
Global Village (Boulder, CO: Westview Press)
>
> In addition, research from the development literature (especially, those
relating to responses to IMF/World Bank's structural adjustment policies)
show how networks can be used to gain access to scarce but neccessary
resources (food, shelter and clothing).  I don't have references right on
hand,
> but can dig further.
>
> /Em
>
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> >>> Sam Friedman <[log in to unmask]> 01/29/03 07:58am >>>
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> I just reached Buenos Aires for a week to help start a study on social
> influences on sexual and social networks, and drug user networks, in a
> poor neighborhood in a time of transition and turmoil.  We will be
> working on the questionnaire over the next 2 or 3 months.
>
> I would like any ideas on either Olga s question or those raised by my
> study.
>
> Sam Friedman
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> >>> Olga Mayorova <[log in to unmask]> 01/28/03 14:45 PM >>>
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> Hello all,
>
> Help needed. I have been trying to find citations supporting the
> statement
> that in times of social and economic transition individuals rely more on
> their personal networks rather than on formal institutions in their
> economic
> activities, and in particular in job searches. But my efforts were
> unsuccessful. From what I have found I got the impression that authors
> assume it to be a well-known social fact and do not cite any important
> works
> that have provided support for it's truthfulness. Any help with
> citations on
> this topic will be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Olga
>
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The Bian pieces are nice illustrations of how the Chinese economic
transition has affected the usage of strong and weak ties in job search; the
papers by Cox and colleagues   describe how in developing countries, social
networks can provide systems of mutual support during economic crises.

@article{Bian:1997,
   Author = {Yanjie Bian},
   Title = {Bringing strong ties back in: {I}ndirect ties, network bridges,
and
   job searches in {C}hina},
   Journal = {American Sociological Review},
   Volume = 62,
   Number = 3,
   Pages = {366--385},
  Year = {1997}}

@incollection{Bian:1999,
   Author = {Yanjie Bian},
   Title = {Getting a job through a web of \textit{guanxi} in {C}hina},
   Pages = {255--277},
   Editor = {Barry Wellman},
   BookTitle = {Networks in the Global Village: Life in Contemporary
    Communities},
   Publisher = {Westview Press},
   Address = {Boulder, CO},
  Year = {1999}}



@article{CoxJimenez:1998,
   Author = {Donald Cox and Emmanuel Jimenez},
   Title = {Risk sharing and private transfers: {W}hat about urban
households?},
   Journal = {Economic Development and Cultural Change},
   Volume = 46,
   Number = 3,
   Pages = {621--637},
 Year = {1998}}

@misc{CoxEtAl:1999,
   Author = {Donald Cox and Bruce E. Hansen and Emmanuel Jimenez},
   Title = {How responsive are private transfers to income? {E}vidence
   from a laissez-faire economy},
   Howpublished = {Working Paper, Department of Economics, Boston
University},
 Year = {1999}}

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But we also have, the higher the class, the more people and the more
different types of people one knows.
Erickson, Bonnie H. 1996. "Culture, Class and Connections." American
Journal of Sociology 102(1):217 51.
Kadushin, Charles and Delmos Jones. 1992. "Social Networks and Urban
Neighborhoods in New York City." City and Society 6(1):58-75.


At 08:39 PM 1/29/03 +0100, Volker, Beate wrote:
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>Dear all (Kate, Barry, socnetters...)
>I think that it could be: bigger GNP - bigger networks but the explaining
>mechnism is not the economy.
>What I found in my dissertation was that people start relationships if they
>know about the future, or are not too uncertain about what will be. In East
>Germany during the tranisiton it became very difficult for the inhabitants
>to become aware of their interests and their future goals: value of
>education changed, the currency changed, the country was overrolled with
>'western' products, traffic rules changed and so on. Past insights, values
>(or investments) became questionable.
>Further: the organization of meetings changed: in East Germany, daily life
>was highly organized and structured by state institutions. Think of all the
>committees at work, neighborhood, for leisure time etc. These organizations
>ceased to exist and people had to arrange cotnacts much more by themselves.
>These circumstances made it difficult to engage in new relationships.
>Furthermore, because of the strong organization and the high political
>control, trustworthiness became an important issue in relationships in the
>former GDR. Speaking about politics was occurred only in relations to those
>with whom one also could talk about important personal matters. In an
>article together with Henk Flap in Rationality and Society in (2001) we
>tried to show that people therefore created highly dense core networks (we
>called it: niches), the 'forbidden triad' did only rarely occur. This
>changed after the political trunover.
>
>People also broke up a number of ties, mainly ties to those they did not
>really trust during the socialist system. These were ties partially ties to
>neighbors (as far as you can break them, but they tried to avoid becoming
>involved in any activity) but also ties that were mainly instrumental: ties
>that helped to compensate for the shortage of all kind of commodities,the
>ties that made for the informal economy. A majority of these ties have been
>quite weak - their main function was the exchange of commodities.
>
>To make a long story shorter: During the transition in the former GDR (I
>refer to the time period between 1989 and 1994) people did not engage in new
>relationship because they were uncertain about their future. They broke
>relationships to those who were not trustworthy and merely instrumental for
>the exchange of goods short in supply.
>You see, I start telling you a long story... I hope I do not bore you.
>
>I would be glad to discuss these or related issues with you,
>kind regards,
>
>Beate Volker
>
>
>
>Beate Völker
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>
>-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
>Van: Barry Wellman [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>Verzonden: woensdag 29 januari 2003 17:46
>Aan: Beatte Volker; Catherine Johnson
>CC: social networks list
>Onderwerp: Re: transition and personal networks
>
>
>Cate and Beate,
>This raises an interesting research question:
>Do networks shrink and rise in step with the economy?
>
>Bigger GNP > bigger nets
>Biggern nets > Bigger GDP
>?
>
>  Barry
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>On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Catherine Johnson wrote:
>
> > Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 11:19:27 -0500
> > From: Catherine Johnson <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: transition and personal networks
> >
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> > Also check out:
> > Beate Volker, "Should auld acquaintance be forgot...?: Institutions
> > of Communism, the Transition to Capitalism and Personal
> > Networks: The Case of East Germany", Amsterdam Thesis
> > Publishers, 1995.
> >
> > She found that in former East Germany personal networks shrunk
> > somewhat during transition.
> >
> > Kate
> >
> >
> > Date sent:              Wed, 29 Jan 2003 11:00:51 -0500
> > Send reply to:          Emmanuel Koku <[log in to unmask]>
> > From:                   Emmanuel Koku <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject:                Re: transition and personal networks
> > To:                     [log in to unmask]
> >
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> > Hi,
> > HI,
> >
> > Check out Endre Sik (with Hungarian data)  & Vicente Espinoza's (with
>Latin American data) articles in Barry Wellman's book: Networks in the
>Global Village (Boulder, CO: Westview Press)
> >
> > In addition, research from the development literature (especially, those
>relating to responses to IMF/World Bank's structural adjustment policies)
>show how networks can be used to gain access to scarce but neccessary
>resources (food, shelter and clothing).  I don't have references right on
>hand,
> > but can dig further.
> >
> > /Em
> >
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> > poor neighborhood in a time of transition and turmoil.  We will be
> > working on the questionnaire over the next 2 or 3 months.
> >
> > I would like any ideas on either Olga s question or those raised by my
> > study.
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> > Hello all,
> >
> > Help needed. I have been trying to find citations supporting the
> > statement
> > that in times of social and economic transition individuals rely more on
> > their personal networks rather than on formal institutions in their
> > economic
> > activities, and in particular in job searches. But my efforts were
> > unsuccessful. From what I have found I got the impression that authors
> > assume it to be a well-known social fact and do not cite any important
> > works
> > that have provided support for it's truthfulness. Any help with
> > citations on
> > this topic will be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Thank you,
> >
> > Olga
> >
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Are they strategies or consequences? I've noticed a "regressive"
pattern of behavior in corporations during layoffs, "downsizing," and
major changes (I haven't charted the networks, this is more of a
clinical observation). I find that people stick to more conservative
patterns--spend less money, make less radical decisions, work the
hierarchy more carefully, take fewer chances. I wonder if there's a
relationship?

Patricia Sachs



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>What was the nature of the lost ties; e.g., weak ties lost first?  Has
>anyone done work on strategies for shrinking nets?
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>>  Catherine Johnson wrote,
>>
>>  Also check out:
>>  Beate Volker, "Should auld acquaintance be forgot...?: Institutions
>>  of Communism, the Transition to Capitalism and Personal
>>  Networks: The Case of East Germany", Amsterdam Thesis
>>  Publishers, 1995.
>>
>>  She found that in former East Germany personal networks shrunk
>>  somewhat during transition.
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Hi
Is there maybe out there work in progrss about the employee behavior in
the case of Enron after their breakdown? They did a lot of networking
via the internet (as far as I could see) and offline (which I guess from
the info online). Other exapmles should be in the NewEconomy last year,
when all those breakdowns occurred.
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> Hello all,
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> Help needed. I have been trying to find citations supporting the statement
> that in times of social and economic transition individuals rely more on
> their personal networks rather than on formal institutions in their economic
> activities, and in particular in job searches. But my efforts were
> unsuccessful. From what I have found I got the impression that authors
> assume it to be a well-known social fact and do not cite any important works
> that have provided support for it's truthfulness. Any help with citations on
> this topic will be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Olga
>
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Maybe a little tangential to recent discussion
on 'transition and personal networks' but does
link to Barry Wellman's conjecture on network size
and GNP.

Consider the recent decline in US and UK
stockmarket indices - plenty of sound, traditional
reasons for this (today: AOL/TimeWarner...wow!)
But given the rise of network economy
- with the proliferation of SMEs -
has this structural change meant a redistribution
of profits from larger public corporations
to privately owned firms (who are leaner,
more flexible, and so on, ...).
Are we at a tipping point in the evolution
of Capitalism?

Thoughts?

best, nick

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FYI, I compiled the e-mails back and forth re scale-free networks the last
few days and placed it at www.ksg.harvard.edu/complexity, under
"controversies".  If you have any additional links, papers, references,
etc, re this work, I'll place it up there and keep a running tab of stuff
on the scale-free network.  I think this was a valuable exchange and would
be worth building on.

cheers,

david

David Lazer
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Kennedy School of Government
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In a message dated 1/30/2003 7:00:45 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:

> - with the proliferation of SMEs -
> has this structural change meant a redistribution
> of profits from larger public corporations
> to privately owned firms (who are leaner,
> more flexible, and so on, ...).
> Are we at a tipping point in the evolution
> of Capitalism?
>
> Thoughts?

This is in line with the argument in Giovanni Arrighi's Long Twentieth Century that capitalism alternates (back to the thirteenth century, at least) between public, bureaucratic forms (mercantile companies, publicly owned corporations) and private, familial forms. He puts a lot of significance on the rise of Chinese diasporic, networked capitalism.

 Worth throwing into the mix is the tremendous increase in the reach of small sellers through things like Ebay and Amazon Marketplace.

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One small correction -- since this discussion is now being preserved
for posterity.

Mark Newman pointed out that I was not entirely correct in saying that
preferential attachment models are the same as proportional mixing models.

He's right, of course.  Preferential attachment is an unconditional
dynamic model of link formation, and prop mixing is conditional on a fixed
degree distribution.  They have very different implications for degree
distributions.

My comments were focused on the common component of the two models, the
assumption of random mixing by degree.  Relaxing the random mixing
assumption has been the focus of most epi modeling for the last 15 years.

With respect to mixing by degree, the empirical motivation is fairly
obvious:  consider polygamy (disassortative by degree) and bath houses
(assortative by degree).  The impact this has on transmission dynamics is
also clear -- disassortaive creates slower growing, more widespread
epidemics, while assortative creates rapid but contained spread.

These are the implications of networks that matter for public health.
They are driven by data, and modeled accordingly.


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The following seems also relevant.

Schunn, C. D., Crowley, K., & Okada, T. (2002). What makes
collaborations across a distance succeed?: The case of the Cognitive
Science community. In P. Hinds & S. Kiesler (Eds.), Distributed Work.
Cambridge, MA: MIT Press.

Hope this helps,
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Dear all,

I'm in search for recent publications about collaboration networks in
science & technology measured by co-authorship in basic and applied
science journals. Using a literature database I got two articles:

Persson, O.; Beckman, M. (1995): Locating the network of interacting
authors in scientific specialities,  Scientometrics 3 (3): 351-366.
Newman, M. E. J. (2001): Scientific collaboration networks. I. Network
construction and fundamental results. In: Physical Review E, 64

Does anybody know other recent and interesting publications in this
field?

Regards,
Thomas


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There is a paper on getting things done through personal networks in
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I've heard that Simon published a scale-free model 45 years ago when he was
studying firm sizes, but I haven't read the paper.  It's:

Herbert Simon (1955) “On a class of skew distribution functions,”
Biometrika, 42:425-440.

Does anyone by chance have a softcopy?

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Another related paper:

Michael Mitzenmacher (2001) “A brief history of generative models of power
law and lognormal distributions,” Harvard University, Computer Science
Group, TR-08-01
 http://www.eecs.harvard.edu/~michaelm/NEWWORK/postscripts/history.pdf

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Here's a copy:
(from www.jstor.org)

http://smallworld.sociology.columbia.edu/~dodds/research/papers/others/1955/simon55.pdf

-> Peter

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> I've heard that Simon published a scale-free model 45 years ago when he was
> studying firm sizes, but I haven't read the paper.  It's:
>
> Herbert Simon (1955) “On a class of skew distribution functions,”
> Biometrika, 42:425-440.
>
> Does anyone by chance have a softcopy?
>
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You can get it through JSTOR, if you have access.

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> I've heard that Simon published a scale-free model 45 years ago when he was
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>
> Herbert Simon (1955) “On a class of skew distribution functions,”
> Biometrika, 42:425-440.
>
> Does anyone by chance have a softcopy?
>
> Doug Bryan
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Yes, this was just some of the work that Simon did to build a compelling
case for a nobel prize in economics.  Not only were firms distributed in an
extreme scale free manner, but he did not miss the opportunity to point out
that this was just another indication ("proof") that the traditional (i.e.,
Chicago) neo-classical economic view of the world was wrong.  According to
the rational view of the firm, firms are supposed to seek an optimal size
level, dependent solely on the rational calculation of when marginal costs
of coordination exceed marginal benefits of cost savings from size.  But,
if this were true, we would observe a distribution of firms much closer to
normal, with the peak occuring at optimal levels.  He went on to write with
Ijiri several extensions of the importance of this line of work, including
the following (both available online in JSTOR):

Ijiri, Y., & Simon, H.A. (1964). Business firm growth and size. American
Economic Review, 54, 77-89.

and Ijiri, Y., & Simon, H.A. (1967). A model of business firm growth.
Econometrika, 35, 348-355.

They also have a book out on this, but that is not available online.

There is a nice recent article by Bob Axtell in Science, also available in
JSTOR, summarizing and showing how scale free these firm sizes really are:

Axtell, Robert (2001).  Zipf distribution of US firm size.  Science, 298:
1818-1820.


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>
> Herbert Simon (1955) ?On a class of skew distribution functions,?
> Biometrika, 42:425-440.
>
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>
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Also worth noting is a nice paper by (again) Derek de Solla Price in
which he constructs and solves, for the first time as far as I know, a
mathematical model of a growing network with a power-law degree
distribution, using ideas taken from Simon's work.  (I don't think Simon
ever applied his ideas directly to network growth.)

  D. J. de Solla Price, "A general theory of bibliometric and other
cumulative advantage processes", J. Amer. Soc. Inform. Sci. 27, 292-306
(1976).

Price was interested in citation networks, but his model is very similar
to the models that physicists have been discussing in the last couple of
years.

Mark Newman.




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Here's a press release just out from Rennselaer Polytechnic University. It
cites a Science story but doesn't give the URL
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Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute (RPI)
31-Jan-03


Uniting with Only a Few Random Links

Keywords: NETWORKS SYSTEMS PARALLEL COMPUTING SMALL-WORLD
Description: A Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute physics researcher has
found that "small-world networking"-- which links a computer to its
nearest neighbor and also a few other random computers in a group-- could
lead to faster, more accurate parallel-computing techniques for
simulation. (Science, 31-Jan-2003)

TROY, N.Y. - Researchers searching for information about highly complex
systems, such as the spread of diseases, the rise and fall of financial
markets, or cell-phone communication networks, benefit from large-scale
networked computer simulation.

These simulations are frequently implemented using large networks of
computers that break down the problem into many parts. Tackling weighty
problems, bit by byte, allows the simulation process to run faster --
sometimes.

The problem comes when the computers have to compare notes, says Gyorgy
Korniss, assistant professor of physics at Rensselaer Polytechnic
Institute. Korniss' solution is to use "small-world" networking -- which
links a computer to its nearest neighbor, and also a few other random
computers in the group. Korniss' findings are published in the Jan. 31
issue of the journal Science.

Korniss's research could lead to better parallel-computing techniques for
simulation. Parallel computing divides a task among many smaller computers
instead of one large one to do the job faster and more efficiently.

Typically, each computer in a network is connected to its closest
"neighbor." But getting information from the machine next door doesn't
allow each computer to get the whole picture of what the entire
neighborhood is doing. When one system is collecting data at a greater
pace than another, the result is a data traffic jam, causing a major
slowdown in the simulation process.

"Enormous amounts of additional time or memory are required for computers
to keep track of information they need from each other to create accurate
simulations," Korniss says.

The solution, according to Korniss, lies with creating a "small
world"-like communication network in which the individual computers
randomly "check in" with each other to make sure they are in sync.

"Our results indicate that only a few random links are necessary for each
computer to know how the network as a whole is behaving." Korniss adds.
"Many of us know the concept of six degrees of separation in which any one
person is only a few acquaintances away from anyone else. The same idea
can be applied to complex problem-solving network systems for more
effective large-scale model simulations."

Mathematicians Duncan Watts and Steve Strogatz at Cornell University were
the first to formulate the significance of small-world networks in
natural, artificial, and social systems in 1998.

Korniss' collaborators are Mark Novotny, professor at Mississippi State
University, Hasan Guclu, graduate student at Rensselaer, Zoltan Toroczkai,
technical staff member at Los Alamos National Laboratory, and Per Rikvold,
professor at Florida State University. The research is funded through the
National Science Foundation, the Research Corporation, and the U.S.
Department of Energy.

Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, founded in 1824, is the nation's oldest
technological university. The school offers degrees in engineering, the
sciences, information technology, architecture, management, and the
humanities and social sciences. Institute programs serve undergraduates,
graduate students, and working professionals around the world. Rensselaer
faculty are known for pre-eminence in research conducted in a wide range
of research centers that are characterized by strong industry
partnerships. The Institute is especially well known for its success in
the transfer of technology from the laboratory to the marketplace so that
new discoveries and inventions benefit human life, protect the
environment, and strengthen economic development.

CONTACT: Gyorgy Korniss (518) 276-2555, [log in to unmask]

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              Relational Data

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CFP: IJCAI-2003 Workshop
Learning Statistical Models from Relational Data
Monday, 11 August 2003
Acapulco, Mexico
http://kdl.cs.umass.edu/events/srl2003/

This workshop will explore approaches to learning statistical models
from  relational data.  The workshop will explore the foundations,
advantages, and limitations of the surprising array of approaches that
have been developed over the past decade.  These include probabilistic
relational models, stochastic logic programs, Bayesian logic programs,
relational Bayesian networks, relational probability trees, first-order
Bayesian classifiers, relational Markov models, block models and
statistical relational models.

These techniques have been developed in several related, but
different, subareas of artificial intelligence (reasoning under
uncertainty, inductive logic programming, machine learning, and
knowledge discovery and data mining) and in some areas outside of AI
(e.g., databases and social network analysis).  Most researchers only
have exposure to one or two techniques, and no clear understanding of
the relative advantages and limitations of different techniques has
yet emerged.  We believe this is an ideal time for a workshop that
allows active researchers in this area to discuss and debate the
unique challenges of learning statistical models from relational data.

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Format
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This one-day workshop will consist of interactive sessions that address
specific topics identified by the organizing committee (see below)
rather than consisting primarily of paper presentations.  Each 60-90
minute session will begin with two or three short (10-minute)
presentations intended to highlight positions on a specific topic
(e.g., representing probabilities or incorporating background
knowledge).  Prior to the workshop, participants will have access to a
variety of tutorial materials provided by both organizers and
participants.

Potential topics include:
   * Unique challenges of relational learning
   * Representational power of different techniques
   * Scalability of statistical relational model-building
   * Alternative methods of incorporating background knowledge
   * Inference and learning tasks for relational data (e.g., attribute
     prediction, link prediction, consolidation, entity detection, object
     identification and clustering)
   * Learning statistical models from time-changing relational data
   * Using statistical models to fuse relational information from noisy,
     heterogeneous sources
   * Contribution of ancillary steps to modeling (e.g., data cleaning,
     transformation, and querying)
   * Applications of relational models (e.g., social network analysis,
     security and law enforcement, and analysis of hypertext collections)

This workshop is intended for researchers in the areas of machine
learning, knowledge discovery and data mining, information retrieval,
link analysis, and social network analysis.


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Paper Submissions
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Participants are encouraged to submit position papers and research
summaries (up to 8 pages in length) on recent and continuing research.
To encourage participation but focus discussions on key topics, we
also invite 2-page research synopses and position papers from
participants who do not wish to submit full papers.  In either case,
we encourage authors to identify the discussion session under which
their research/position falls.

Each submission shall be accompanied by a short statement (500 words)
describing the participant's interests in the workshop topics.

Papers should be formatted according to IJCAI guidelines and should be
submitted electronically in postscript, PDF, or MS Word format via
e-mail.

All submissions should be sent to: [log in to unmask]


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Important Dates
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Mar  7, 2003 Submission deadline
Mar 21, 2003 Acceptance notification
May 16, 2003 Camera-ready version of papers


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Organizing Chairs
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Lise Getoor (co-chair)
Computer Science Department/UMIACS
AV Williams Building
University of Maryland
College Park, MD 20742
voice 301-405-2691
fax   301-405-6707
http://www.cs.umd.edu/~getoor
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David Jensen (co-chair)
Department of Computer Science
140 Governors Drive
University of Massachusetts
Amherst, MA 01003-4610
voice 413-545-9677
fax   413-545-1249
http://www.cs.umass.edu/~jensen
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Program Committee
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James Cussens, University of York, UK
Luc De Raedt, Albert-Ludwigs-University, Germany
Pedro Domingos, University of Washington, USA
Kristian Kersting, Albert-Ludwigs-University, Germany
Stephen Muggleton, Imperial College, London, UK
Avi Pfeffer, Harvard University, USA
Taisuke Sato, Tokyo Institute of Technology, Japan
Lyle Ungar, University of Pennsylvania, USA


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Additional information
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See:
   http://kdl.cs.umass.edu/events/srl2003/
for more information.

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*****  To join INSNA, visit http://www.sfu.ca/~insna/  *****

New?  Amusing.  My favorite transparent load-balancing system for
balancing processes on a computing cluster, MOSIX (or OpenMOSIX), has
used this approach (probe a few neighbors plus a random assortment)
for many years for deciding how to spread the load efficiently
(efficient diffusion of tasks).  The book on it (MOSIX) was written in
1993...

best,
-tony


>>>>> "BW" == Barry Wellman <[log in to unmask]> writes:

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    BW> Here's a press release just out from Rennselaer Polytechnic University. It
    BW> cites a Science story but doesn't give the URL


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