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let's all just ignore it, and not spam the list with upset about it. It's
rare, and so is cursing on the list. This is a scholarly list.

 Barry
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On Thu, 19 Feb 2004, MICHAEL LUCHTAN wrote:

> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 16:42:39 -0500
> From: MICHAEL LUCHTAN <[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [SOCNET] SV: ***SPAM***      [SOCNET] Open letter to 13
>     Jewish              physicists
>
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> Right--
> I'm new to this list...How often does this kind of sh.t come up?
>
> Michael Luchtan
> http://www.cs.uga.edu/~luchtan
>
>
> On Thu, 19 Feb 2004, Carl Nordlund wrote:
>
> > *****  To join INSNA, visit http://www.sfu.ca/~insna/  *****
> >
> > Uh oh...
> >
> > Maybe some moderating of this list might be in order?
> >
> > /Carl
> >
> >
> > -----Ursprungligt meddelande-----
> > Från: Social Networks Discussion Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]] För
> > George Hammond
> > Skickat: den 19 februari 2004 21:43
> > Till: [log in to unmask]
> > Ämne: ***SPAM*** [SOCNET] Open letter to 13 Jewish physicists
> >
> >
> > *****  To join INSNA, visit http://www.sfu.ca/~insna/  *****
> >
> > Dear SOCNET readers:
> >
> > This post is not "spam" or the work of a "crank".
> > This announcement is of singular importance
> > to the study of social theory.
> >
> >   You may contact me at the following private
> > email address:
> >
> >           [log in to unmask]
> >
> > Sincerely, George Hammond
> > Hyannis, February 19, 2004 _____________________________________________
> >
> >
> > AN OPEN LETTER TO 13 JEWISH PHYSICISTS
> >
> >            ABOUT THE RECENT
> >        DISCOVERY OF A SCIENTIFIC
> >              PROOF OF GOD
> >
> > ATTN  The Honorable Mr. George W. Bush
> >      President of the United States
> > (c/o email submission form to the CIA at:
> > https://comm.cia.gov/cgi/comment_form.cgi)
> >
> > C/O   Professor Steven Weinberg
> >      Physics Dept. University of Texas
> >
> > COPIES TO:
> > (source: http://www.jinfo.org/Physicists.html)
> >
> > Steven Weinberg        email: U. Texas
> > Murray Gell-Mann       email:  Santa Fe Inst
> > Edward Witten          surface mail: IAS Princeton U
> > Jacob Bekenstein       email: Hebrew U
> > Alan Guth              email: MIT
> > Lee Smolin             email: Perimeter Inst
> > Sheldon Glashow        email: Harvard
> > Michael Green          email: Cambridge
> > Yakir Aharonov         email: Tel Aviv U
> > Richard Arnowitt       email: TAMU
> > Stanley Deser          email: Brandeis U
> > David Deutsch          email: Oxford
> > Sir M. V. Berry        surface mail: Bristol U
> >
> >   The matter reported in this letter is widely
> > known.  A foundation paper was published in the
> > peer reviewed literature in 1994 and the latest
> > developments are in press.  It has been widely
> > discussed on the Internet for several years and
> > is known to hundreds of thousands of visitors to
> > my websites:
> >
> > http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god
> > mirror site:
> > http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com
> >
> >   I am a physicist, and have been discussing
> > the matter privately with Professor Christopher
> > Isham at Imperial College whom many of you
> > know personally.
> >
> >   Unfortunately, I have concluded that those
> > discussions have very little possibility of a
> > favorable outcome, for political reasons.
> >
> >   While the technical details are apparent
> > to any qualified physicist, and the result:
> >
> >               God=G_uv
> >
> > is certainly stunning, a scientific proof
> > of God has political and social overtones which
> > make the average scientist exceedingly
> > uncomfortable.
> >   To be frank, one has to recognize the
> > sheer incredulity that would be faced by
> > Professor Isham, or even Sir John Polkinghorne
> > should they be called upon to announce to the
> > world that "a scientific proof of God had been
> > discovered".  Their name would be Mudd
> > within a matter of days.  Their careers
> > would be ruined and they would be ridiculed
> > by every scoundrel in Christendom. Such a thing
> > is impossible politically.  They simply do not
> > have the social mandate to say such a thing
> > even if it were true.
> >
> >   I have concluded then, that the first
> > official corroboration of this discovery is
> > more properly to come from a Jewish scientist.
> > Why?  The answer is obvious.  Historically
> > Israel was the first to discover God 3,500
> > years ago.  The most famous public notice
> > of the existence of God was made by an Israeli
> > Rabbi 2,004 years ago.
> >   I therefore conclude that the only scientist
> > who could openly corroborate such a discovery
> > today without becoming an object of ridicule,
> > would in fact be a prominent Jewish physicist.
> > There might be some public murmuring and a lot of
> > private discussion, but I think the public and
> > the scientific community would tend to simply
> > make a silent mental note of the event and
> > await further scientific confirmation. I don't
> > believe, after witnessing the Holocaust and WWII,
> > that the public would be inclined to support any
> > untoward activity as the result of a Jewish
> > scientist announcing that he thinks possibly that
> > a scientific proof of God has been found. Rather
> > I think that most people will suspect that the
> > inevitable has finally happened and remain calm.
> > In fact, I think that they will conclude that it
> > is yet another miracle associated with Israel,
> > which by the way, being based on Einstein's Theory,
> > it apparently is.
> >
> >   Therefore, I am asking the scientists on this
> > list to privately look into this matter, as a
> > matter of great urgency to world peace and
> > human progress, and to arrive at some scientific
> > consensus within the Jewish religious community
> > as to what this is, and what it means.
> >   I don't expect anyone to reply to me, this is
> > more in the manner of an FYI communication.  But
> > I am hopeful, that somewhere, somehow, some Jewish
> > scientist will be instrumental one way or another,
> > in getting the news of this discovery to a long
> > suffering humanity, including the brave citizens
> > of the United States who are presently struggling
> > with an international religious problem involving
> > a serious military confrontation. Certainly,
> > considering the global challenges that face America
> > today, it is more than ever essential to our
> > security that we maintain the high moral ground in
> > the judgement of world opinion. If the Moslem
> > extremists should ever get wind of this discovery
> > before Christianity or Judiasm does, there would
> > be serious political and military ramifications for
> > our nations and our people.
> >
> > Yours Sincerely,  George Hammond, M.S. Physics (1967)
> >
> > ====================================
> > SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god
> > mirror site:
> > http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com
> > ====================================
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