After spending most of the day yesterday being misty-eyed over Devil Dog
birthday wishes (being prior military myself and a disabled veteran). It's
your turn to read with pleasure this senate floor exchange:


Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 11:13

Some people still don't understand why military personnel do what they do
for a living. This exchange between Senators John Glenn and Senator Howard
Metzenbaum is worth reading. Not only is it a pretty
impressive impromptu speech, but it's also a good example of one man's
explanation of why men and women in the armed services do what they do for
a living. This IS a typical, though sad, example of what some who have
never served think of the military.

Senator Metzenbaum to Senator Glenn: "How can you run for Senate when
you've never held a real job?"

Senator Glenn: "I served 23 years in the United States Marine Corps. I
served through two wars. I flew 149 missions. My plane was hit by
anti-aircraft fire on 12 different occasions. I was in the space program.

It wasn't my checkbook, Howard; it was my life on the line. It was not a
nine-to-five job, where I took time off to take the daily cash receipts to
the bank. I ask you to go with me ... as I went the other day... to a
veteran's hospital and look those men - with their mangled bodies - in the
eye, and tell THEM they didn't hold a job! You go with me to the Space
Program at NASA and go, as I have gone, to the widows and orphans of Ed
White, Gus Grissom and Roger Chaffee... and you look those kids in the eye
and tell them that their DADS didn't hold a job. You go with me on Memorial
Day and you stand in Arlington National Cemetery, where I have more
friends buried than I'd like to remember, and you watch those waving flags.

You stand there, and you think about this nation, and you tell ME that
those people didn't have a job? I'll tell you, Howard Metzenbaum; you
should be on your knees every day of your life thanking God that there were
some men - SOME MEN - who held REAL jobs. And they required a dedication to
a purpose - and a love of country and a dedication to duty - that was more
important than life itself. And their self-sacrifice is what made this
country possible.
I HAVE held a job, Howard! What about you?"

For those who don't remember - During W.W.II, Howard Metzenbaum was an
attorney representing the Communist Party in the USA..... Now he is a

If you can read this, thank a teacher.... If you are reading it in English
thank a Veteran.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jones, Virginia [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 2:14 PM
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Subject: Re: Why so many ex military, and RM education, was: Re: Happy Bir
thday DevilDogs!

I can think of several reasons:
1 - "baby boomers" (my age group) were subject to the draft, and therefore a
high percentage of the males were in the military at one time.
2 - Marine Corps training is very rigorous, and conditions RIM folks for our
usual crawls through old buildings, basements, attics, deserted structures,
etc. to inventory records.
3 - RIM is procedure-oriented, and ex-military are well trained in
developing (or at least memorizing and following) explicit procedures.
4 - the military "builds men" (their slogan, not mine) and enables
ex-military types to lift full records boxes. 8-)

Ginny Jones
(Virginia A. Jones, CRM)
Records Manager
Information Technology Division
Newport News Dept. of Public Utilities
Newport News, VA
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