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Subject: Re: [Fwd: Spider-Man and a general question]

I like it!  I was struck by similar themes in the film.

How about the manic defense in SpM and GWB?   The first is a conveniently fictional manic defense - it works - in the form of weightless-supersticky-really fast and strong; GWB in the Pangloss/Machiavelli lovechild need to put a positive spin on each and every bit of news; the renunciation of all accountability, and the refusal to acknowledge even partial failures.

Peter Parker, at least, managed to document actual achievements, and refused to give himself a vacation, much less multi-million dollar parties, or medals of deity to his cohorts.  SpM was a model of reparation; GWB, of envy.

Disclaimer:  I believe the myth of the Superhero, free of moral ambiguity, is alive and kicking/sticking, quite relevant these days.  My comments about the Pres shall be confined to this context only.


----- Original Message -----

From: Norman Holland <[log in to unmask]> 

Date: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 3:40 pm 

Subject: [Fwd: Spider-Man and a general question] 

> -------- Original Message -------- 
> Subject: Spider-Man and a general question 
> Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 16:37:15 -0000 
> From: Terry Burridge <[log in to unmask]> 
> To: 'Institute for Psychological Study of the Arts' 
> <[log in to unmask]> 
> I posted a question about spider-Man a couple of weeks ago which 
> got no 
> response. (Which is the privilege of a group, to ignore posts that 
> donítspark any interest.) I wasnít sure, though, if my message 
> actually got 
> through. Most of the postings seem to be a FW.this or FW that. Iím not 
> quite clear where new postings to this group come from, or if they are 
> forwards that Norman has seen/ received which he thinks might be of 
> general interest. Iíd appreciate some clarification from somebody, 
> please. Thatís my general point. My second one is to re-post my 
> Spider-Man question in the hope that it might spark some interest. 
> So, my Spider-Man question runs something like this: 
> It struck me that the recent Spider-Man movie had lots of interesting 
> psychological/ emotional overtones. Thereís the whole issue of 
> Masks and 
> true identity which echoed Winnicottís work on True and False 
> self. Then 
> there are Kleinian themes of guilt and Reparation. Peter Parkerís 
> fosterfather is killed as a result of his inaction in an earlier 
> situation.His life as Spider-Man seems to be an attempt to atone 
> for this mistake. 
> Does this have any national connections for America at the moment- and 
> for Bush Jnr.? I can see various other themes, but hoped that a group, 
> whose remit was to look at a psychological study of the Arts, 
> might have 
> some thoughts as well. Please donít disappoint me! 
> Yours 
> Terry