***** To join INSNA, visit http://www.insna.org ***** Valdis' reference to Erica Klarreich's little article "Sizing up Complex Webs: Close or far, many networks look th same" (Science News Online http://www.scincenews.org/articles/20050129/fob3.asp) certainly attracted comment on SOCNET. 27 messages in the two days of February 2nd and 3rd! I don't know much about math, but the article and some of the relevant comments seemed to be perfectly consistent with what I was talking about in my Keynote address to the INSNA Sunbelt Social Network Conference in Cancun, February, 2003. It was entitled "Connecting the Dots Without Forgetting the Circles" by which I meant that everything scientists try to study - everything material, everything biological, everything socio-cultural - is organized in hierarchically structured networks that, as Klarreich says, "display similar patterns, whether viewed from up close or far away." As you approach closer, the dots become circles, and as you distance yourself the circles become dots. Similar patterns at each level of the hierarchy. The address is supposed to be published soon in CONNECTIONS, but you can read some excerpts relevant to this issue at: http://luna.cas.usf.edu/~wolfe/Excerpt-re-self-similarity.pdf Or, if you want to read the whole thing, at http://luna.cas.usf.edu/~wolfe/Wolfe2003-ConnectingDots&Circles.pdf --Alvin Alvin W. Wolfe Distinguished University Professor Emeritus Department of Anthropology 4202 E. Fowler Avenue, SOC107 University of South Florida Tampa, FL 33620-8100 813-974-0794 -----Original Message----- From: Social Networks Discussion Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Valdis Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 8:24 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: All Networks Look the Same? ***** To join INSNA, visit http://www.insna.org ***** Hmm... I have real networks from real organizations that do NOT look like this... http://www.sciencenews.org/articles/20050129/fob3.asp Any other views? Valdis _____________________________________________________________________ SOCNET is a service of INSNA, the professional association for social network researchers (http://www.insna.org). To unsubscribe, send an email message to [log in to unmask] containing the line UNSUBSCRIBE SOCNET in the body of the message.