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Dr. Wallace,

You bring up a good point. Looking briefly at the study (I also did not
read all 176 pages yet), the models that they look at includes some
schools that have a requirement 3.0, 2.0, or no GPA requirement to be in
the program, while some program prerequisites or requirements are not
listed. 

Although the general statement of successful high school students become
successful college students makes sense, unfortunately many students
that have "good grades" or get "good test scores" do not become
successful in college. There are some schools that still do not provide
any or less then three AP courses. Some schools don't have any honors
courses. High Achieving - Low income students enroll and graduate from
college at almost the same rate as Low Achieving - High Income students
(29% to 30%). Regretfully, there is more to college success then high
school success or dual enrollment. Hopefully when we are done reading
this study, we can learn more about the possibilities that Dual
Enrollment can provide. Below is one excerpt of findings from the High
School Dual Enrollment Program at Santa Fe Community College (HSDEP),
which is primarily for at-risk students.

"According to an interview with a school administrator, previously,
particularly in the program's early years, 65% of the student
participants were "at-risk" students. Now, only 10-15% of enrolled
students have issues that might affect their ability to be successful in
school. Much of this shift in the student population is related to the
growth of both the program and community college, specifically the
addition of two more academically rigorous tracks (College Academic and
College of Fine Arts). But it is also evident from enrolled student
applications that HSDEP continues to accept students who are considered
at risk of dropping out of high school based on low GPAs and high
absentee rates, but who have the potential to be successful based on
college placement test scores."

Reggie Jean
Boston University Upward Bound
www.bu.edu/ub 
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-----Original Message-----
From: Open Forum for Learning Assistance Professionals
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Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 9:21 AM
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Subject: Re: Study--> The College Ladder: Linking Secondary and
Postsecondary Education for Success for All Students

I have not read the report, and may never read the whole 176 pages ...
If the report does not mention it in its findings, we do need to keep in
perspective in interpreting the data that students who take dual
enrollment courses are the more successful high school students to begin
with.  Most programs require a certain GPA / class ranking before
students can take dual enrollment courses.  

Again, I have not read the report, but if the only correlation made is
between dual enrollment participation and college completion, then the
report states the obvious -- successful high school students become
successful college students.

Stephen O. Wallace, Ph.D.
Coordinator Developmental Education and Advising Development
Shippensburg University
114 Horton Hall
(717) 477-1395
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-----Original Message-----
From: Open Forum for Learning Assistance Professionals
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Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 8:05 AM
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Subject: Study--> The College Ladder: Linking Secondary and
Postsecondary Education for Success for All Students

*         High school students who participate in "dual enrollment"
programs
in which they take some college courses while still in high school have
higher college completion rates than do other students, according to a
new
study
<http://www.aypf.org/publications/The%20College%20Ladder/TheCollegeLadde
rlin
kingsecondaryandpostsecondaryeducation.pdf>  by the American Youth
Policy
Forum.

Web link to "a new study" link for the 176 pages of pdf: The College
Ladder:
Linking Secondary and Postsecondary Education for Success for All
Students

http://www.aypf.org/publications/The%20College%20Ladder/TheCollegeLadder
link
ingsecondaryandpostsecondaryeducation.pdf

 

Blurb source:  http://insidehighered.com/news/2006/10/31/qt

 

 


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