> > The only thing that stops me from saying no, besides the > mentioned, is > > that if he wants such a setup, he will eventually get it, > from other > > sysadmins. And it probably will be even more spammy and bad. > > I'm sure, Arthur, that you've seen my reply on one of the > other lists you've posted this on. > > In that thread I pointed out that you've admitted you're a > spammer (if you design a system for him, then in the mind of > most anti-spammers you ARE him) and in this thread I notice > you admit you're a spammer several times (go back and read > all your posts). > > But let's presume for a moment that you're not; that you're > simply a nice guy wanting to build him a solution. > > Let's look at this analogy: > > You meet a guy in a bar who's soliciting to murder his wife. > He's met someone who wants to literally do a hatchet job. > Now he approaches you, to see if you have a neater solution. > > Surely you don't agree that you ought to kill the woman with > a single bullet, because it's less messy and bad? > > Or do you? > > And when you're called a murderer, is your excuse that he > would have had her killed anyway; at least you were willing > to do it in a less painful way? > > He's a spammer. If you lie in his bed, then you begin to > smell like him very quickly. > > Look for a moment at a small part of Jon Lewis's siglines: > > <quote> > I route > therefore you are > </quote> > > If systems administrators cease to route him into their > system, then he ceases to exist. This will happen incredibly > quickly. He may want to do it "nicely" and "according to > some rules" (I'm not an Israeli attorney; I have no idea if > he's doing anything legal or not, and frankly, I don't care), > but ironically, that makes it even easier for systems > administrators to get his IP#s shut down. Better for his > spam-loving customers that they go with spambot vendors. > They'll at least get their dreck delivered to some portion of > the addresses they're paying to mail to. > > Jeff The point understood and taken. I must say I was tempted for a while to go with him, though I wasn't sure he is not a spammer, neither I am now. Nevertheless, it smells badly, I admit. What I really wanted from all the thread was to learn mail systems better, even including the darker side. Just like when you build a brand new server, you test its weak points from outside. Right now I now: 1) spam is bad; 2) spammers are bad either; 3) if I go with the bad guys, I am doomed forever... (which is good since the good still prevails over the bad :); 4) I learned that for LEGIT mail system, the load of 1 million/day is not a biggie really. I would like to learn the deeper technical aspects of it, but will do it not right now, maybe on the next flame session. :) Now, guys, really thank you, for both the ethical and technical opinions. Probably, many here learned the lesson. Arthur