***** To join INSNA, visit http://www.insna.org ***** Reposted to Stocnet discussion list as suggested. On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 17:00:04 +0200 "T.A.B.SNIJDERS" <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Dear Shan, > > Your query might be more appropriate for the Stocnet >discussion list > which is specialized in issues concerning the programs >included in > Stocnet, among which Siena. See >http://groups.yahoo.com/groups/stocnet/ > > But let me try to answer it here, as far as I can. > > 1. I do not understand your problem in running Siena and >have not heard > of such problems earlier. The van de Bunt data supplied >with Siena, for > example, have 7 waves, and these can be used in Siena >without any > problem. When you follow exactly the steps in the >Stocnet manual > (assuming that you run Siena from within Stocnet) and >the Siena manual, > it should work. > > 2. Investigating groups of 6 actors with 10 attributes >strikes me as > being a bit risky - too many variables for so few >actors. > > 3. Too analyze multiple groups you may need to use >adapted specifications. > > 4. What you write about structure still seems too vague. >It may be a > good idea to develop your thoughts further on this >aspect. > > Best regards, > > Tom Snijders > > > Shan Cook wrote: >> ---------------------- Information from the mail header >>----------------------- >> Sender: Social Networks Discussion Forum >><[log in to unmask]> >> Poster: Shan Cook <[log in to unmask]> >> Subject: Waves in siena problem & Idea request >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> ***** To join INSNA, visit http://www.insna.org ***** >> >> Question 1 of 2) >> I have been trying to run Siena but have encountered a >> problem: >> More than 3 waves causes in the program freezing/failing >> to respond etc. >> And no, this is not just that the program needs more >>time >> to process the data - it is an actual freeze that >>requires >> a restart of the program. >> >> I have tried: >> using the supplied data. >> >> using no attributes (actor waves only). >> >> removing all model options (density etc) so that the >> program has few functions to perform. >> >> using a different PC. >> >> uninstalling the program and reinstalling a new >>download. >> >> >> The data I wish to analyse: 12 groups, mean 6 actors >> in each group and mean 6 waves for each group, 10 >> attributes. >> My exploration: if a group achieve a structure by wave X >> (density,centralisation, etc) >> and they have attributes >=Y (motivation, social >> familiarity, etc) >> then their performance (group and individual) is more >> likely to be >=Z >> >> I lack the necessary knowledge in IT, mathematics and >>SNA >> to understand the problem. >> Is it simply that STOcNET can only run 3 waves at any >>one >> time? >> If there is not 'fix' is is possible to run multiples of >>3 >> with overlaps? i.e. waves 123, then 345, then 567? >> >> >> >> Question 2 of 2) >> I would appreciate thoughts on which 'structures' to >> examine. I have found a few papers that touch upon >>similar >> topics but if anyone has any ideas that they think would >> be worth trying out but haven't had the time to try, >>then >> I would be more than happy to accomodate. >> >> >> Thank you for your thoughts >> Ms Shan Cook >> >> _____________________________________________________________________ >> SOCNET is a service of INSNA, the professional >>association for social >> network researchers (http://www.insna.org). To >>unsubscribe, send >> an email message to [log in to unmask] containing >>the line >> UNSUBSCRIBE SOCNET in the body of the message. > > -- > Tom A.B. Snijders > Professor of Statistics in the Social Sciences > University of Oxford > > Professor of Statistics and Methodology > Department of Sociology, University of Groningen > > for addresses and telephone numbers: see > http://stat.gamma.rug.nl/snijders/ _____________________________________________________________________ SOCNET is a service of INSNA, the professional association for social network researchers (http://www.insna.org). To unsubscribe, send an email message to [log in to unmask] containing the line UNSUBSCRIBE SOCNET in the body of the message.