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Gee, the party that supposedly stands for working Americans and liberty for all
sure seems elitist and closed minded.

I once again will ask, is political debate the point of this listserv?



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From: Social Networks Discussion Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Valdis Krebs
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Subject: Re: me, Paul Erdos, and Sara Palin

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Unless you place the cutoff for "what is a tie" very low, Palin is
probably not in the network neighborhood of too many scientists and
vice versa.

Valdis


On Sep 15, 2008, at 2:54 PM, David Krackhardt wrote:

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> If my Palin number were 2, I think I'd kill myself.  -David
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> James Fowler wrote:
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>> Well, I think they both are salient:
>> the media has investigated Obama for buying his house from indicted
>> political fundraiser Tony Rezko and they have investigated McCain
>> for buying too many houses (as an academic, I too lose count of how
>> many houses I own sometimes).
>> and the media was also quite interested in who Bill Clinton kissed
>> (now *that's* a lot of collaboration) and now who Sarah Palin's
>> daughter kissed (Bill swears it wasn't him).
>> so from their point of view, a past connection could mean a
>> current, hidden connection, and thus current influence....
>> but, yes, that way of viewing the world asymptotes all of us
>> towards having a Palin number of 2!
>> :)
>> James H. Fowler
>> http://jhfowler.ucsd.edu
>> On Sep 15, 2008, at 3:02 AM, Blyden Potts wrote:
>>> The most interesting question here IMO is: Which kinds of compound
>>> relations have political salience?
>>>
>>> I would imagine that buying your house from a person who had a
>>> personal relationship with the candidate would have not have any
>>> appreciable impact on voting behavior or political ideology. Does
>>> the relation "buying a house from" or any compound relation
>>> stemming from that direct relation have any impact on one's
>>> politics? Does it make your politics more similar to Palin's than
>>> they otherwise be? Or do you find yourself more likely to vote for
>>> her on account of your closeness?  OTOH if you were close friends
>>> with someone who had been intimate with her that seems more likely
>>> to matter. Also the direction of that impact, of each relation,
>>> could be either positive or negative.
>>>
>>> Timing would seem to be a factor. Your relation to the house
>>> seller is in the past, and his relation to Palin is in the past,
>>> so you only have a Palin number of 2 if you consider relations in
>>> cumulative time.  Wouldn't your current Palin number matter more?
>>>
>>> I used to be 2 steps from Jesse Ventura, and when I was there was
>>> some minor active political influence that came across those two
>>> links, but now my Ventura number must be at least 3, and I no
>>> longer get that active political influence. I'm no longer even
>>> sure what the path distance may be. Across all time my Ventura
>>> number would still be two, but clearly the impact has changed.
>>>
>>> Blyden Potts
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
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>>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of James Fowler
>>> Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 1:16 AM
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>>> Subject: me, Paul Erdos, and Sara Palin
>>>
>>> ...
>>>
>>> I bought my house from a man who kissed Sara Palin.
>>>
>>>
>>> ...
>>>
>>> All sorts of interesting questions arise.
>>>
>>> *In high school was Palin as prolific in "collaborating" as Erdos
>>> was
>>> at publishing?
>>>
>>> *Could this be a factor behind "the Palin bump?"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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