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Hi, all just wanted to stop by and say thank you Bill and Angie. I am
new to the listserv and I work for a city agency, I had no idea that
Vital records in other places takes on a new meaning. When I hear vital
records in city agency terms we are talking about records such as birth
certificates. I am not a CRM but I have a passion to learn all I can
about records, especially when it comes to document management. I
welcome all I can read about records management. My job is more about
getting funding for agencies for records management improvement. So for
the people out there that has a 1,000 of years experience in records,
there are some of us with just 1-2 yrs experience and raising questions
like those help us learn more. Once again thank you.  

 

Jeffrey Wilson, Grants Analyst

NYC Department of Records

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From: Records Management Program [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
Behalf Of Angie Fares
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Subject: Re: Private was Fwd: [RM] Destruction Vital Records

 

Bill

 

I am glad that you posted your question and those of us who answered

obviously thought it was important enough to spend the time responding.

When I read your question, I understood that you were inviting opinions

and dialogue.

 

Many managers coming through the health care industry or government

subscribe to the view that, in their industry, vital records are records

of birth, death, marriage, divorce, stillbirth, etc.  Such records are

considered permanent in those industries.  In some cases, when people

cross over to another industry and are "dropped" into the job of Records

Management in an industry outside of their previous realm of experience,

they don't realize that the word "vital" takes on another meaning.  

 

As a process consultant, I'll bet that you run into a lot of people who

are not CRM's, don't belong to ARMA, and don't belong to the listserv.

They are not exposed to other ideas.  I ran into that a lot when I did

consulting years ago and, to this day, I know some ex-health records

managers who stubbornly insist that vital records are permanent.  I also

know that many organizations don't have a records manager and whatever

department is running the records function may not have the knowledge or

resources to acquire training and literature.

 

I frequently invite people into venues and pose questions in order to

expose them to opinions other than my own.  It gives me a chance to

support a point without being argumentative, rude or arrogant.  Or, I

might pose a question to see how others answered it in order to get some

ideas on how to frame a convincing arguement.

 

If you want to have a lively discussion on the subject, I'd be happy to

invite you to a forum on the information technology audit and control

association web site.  It is where we information technology governance

people hang out and we frequently discuss records management issues.  We

don't care WHY people pose a question...we just answer them to the best

of our knowledge and experience.  Everyone is very professional and

would more than welcome your questions and your point of view.   

 

Call me if you are interested.  You know how to reach me.

 

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