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Yes, there are reading teacher out here! This is a great list-serve; lots of thoughtful discussion and practical ideas. -----Original Message----- From: Open Forum for Learning Assistance Professionals [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Frailey, Marty Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 3:39 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: listening exercise I have just joined this list serve after it was suggested by Patti Eney. I have a question, is everyone in the list serve associated with learning centers only? Are their reading teachers here? Marty Frailey Lead Faculty Reading- Downtown Campus office CC272 phone (520) 206-7020, fax (520) 206-7044 [log in to unmask] ________________________________________ From: Open Forum for Learning Assistance Professionals [[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Janice Heerspink [[log in to unmask]] Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 2:01 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: listening exercise There are instructions for how to use this. I have not used it in some years, so I may have it a bit wrong. But I believe it is that you tell one group what the topic is, and the other group hears this passage w/o knowing the topic. Then you test to see what people remembered. It's about how having background knowledge improves comprehension, yes? jbh >>> "Fosmire, Ellie" <[log in to unmask]> 1/23/2009 2:38 PM >>> Thanks so much I found it quickly, I responded to all so others could have the information as well. Be sure to use the quote marks when searching, it makes the task much easier. Here it is: "The procedure is actually quite simple. First you arrange items into different groups. Of course one pile may be sufficient depending on how much there is to do. If you have to go somewhere else due to lack of facilities that is the next step; otherwise you are pretty well set. It is important not to overdo things. That is, it is better to do too few things at one than too many. IN the short run this may not seem important but complications can easily arise. A mistake can be expensive as well. At first, the whole procedure will seem complicated. Soon, however, it will become just another facet of life. It is difficult foresee any end to the necessity for this task in the immediate future, but then, one can never tell. After the procedure is completed one arranges the materials into different groups again. Then they can be put into their appropriate places. Eventually they will be used once more and the whole cycle will then have to be repeated. However, that is part of life." (Bransford & Johnson, 1972) -----Original Message----- From: Open Forum for Learning Assistance Professionals [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of William W. Ziegler Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 2:28 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: listening exercise Google the phrase "one pile may be sufficient" and you will find it in many locations. The source is-- Bransford, J.D., & Johnson, M.K. (1972). Contextual prerequisites for understanding: Some investigations of comprehension and recall. Journal of Verbal Learning and Verbal Behavior, 11, 717-726. Also a chapter in Visual information processing, W.G. Chase (Ed.). New York: Academic Press, 1973.) -----Original Message----- From: Open Forum for Learning Assistance Professionals [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Robin Kratzer Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 2:17 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: listening exercise Please share with the list. I would be very interested in this exercise. I have never heard of it before Robin Kratzer, Director Academic Resource Center Disability Services Coordinator Instructor of Education Defiance College 701 North Clinton Street Defiance, OH 43512 419-783-2332 [log in to unmask] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fosmire, Ellie" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 2:12 PM Subject: listening exercise > Hi Folks and happy Friday. > > I am looking for a listening exercise that I used to use and can't find > it. It revolves around reading a list of steps aloud to the group. The > list is a little abstract and what the group is supposed to figure out > is that it relates to doing the laundry. I have searched without > success and am hoping someone has an electronic file of the exercise. It > starts out like this..... "First you separate the objects into different > piles". Please send it out if you have it or know where to find it > online. 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