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Trudy:

I began seeing the about two years ago.  They had a rep on the floor at the ARMA Expo in Baltimore and I asked him how/why they got into the business.  He said they got the idea (did not buy anyone, at least back then) since they were in many businesses already to expand their offerings.

As to assigning title of documents to a shredding provider I too would be opposed in general.

Tod Chernikoff, CRM
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From: "Trudy M Phillips" <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 17:42
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Subject: Re: [RM] Records Shredding/Pulping/Removal Agreements--Requirements

> The response to get with legal counsel is a very sound  recommendation.  I 
> too would be nervous if a shredder wanted "title" to my  documents needing 
> destruction.  Doesn't "title" mean I own it and can do  what I want?
> 
> This reminded me of a question I have for the group.
> 
> I am in the Birmingham AL region.  Just very recently I have begun to  
> notice trucks that has signs
> CINTAS
> Documant Destruction.
> 
> If I recall, Cintas was a commercial uniform supplier. So my question to  
> you all is - Did the just start this or who did the buy?  I still see the  
> Shred-It trucks around town..  Another question I have is, do you suspect  we 
> will begin to see consolidation in the shredding industry as we have in the  
> late 90's with record storage companies.
> 
> Trudy M.  Phillips
> File Management, LLC 
> "Bringing Order Out of  Chaos"
> 8440 Lanewood Circle 
> Leeds, AL 35094
> Office:  205/699-8571   Fax: 205/699-3278 
> _www.filemanagement.com_ (http://www.filemanagement.com/)  
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> 
> In a message dated 4/16/2009 9:56:45 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
> [log in to unmask] writes:
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> Hello,
> 
> I have been a "lurker" on this list for the past 2  years, and this is my 
> first public posting.  Personal background:  I  worked as an archivist and 
> manager at the National Archives of the United  States for 26 years and have 
> been with the Colonial Williamsburg Foundation  Archives for a number of 
> years.  I have found this listserve to be an  invaluable source of information 
> and guidance, and hope you can help with a  question I have.
> 
> My question to the list is as follows:
> 
> We  operate both an archival facility and a small (ca. 11, 000 cu.ft.) 
> records  center; the latter is located about 4 miles from the archives.  We  
> dispose of about 1500 cu.ft. of non-permanent paper records each year from the  
> records center.  The company that for many years removed and pulped these  
> records for us recently changed hands.  The new management is now asking  us 
> to sign a Services Agreement (the former management never did this)  that 
> among other things requires us to transfer title of the records to them  
> when they remove the records.
> 
> I am wondering whether any list members  who do business with records 
> removal/shredding/pulping companies have been  asked to sign agreements that 
> contain such a requirement?  Is it common  practice for these companies to 
> require that title to the records be  transferred to them?  Should we be wary of 
> such a  requirement?
> 
> Thank you in advance for any advice you can  offer.
> 
> Rosanne Butler
> Director, Archives and Records
> Colonial  Williamsburg Foundation
> P.O. Box 1776
> Williamsburg, VA 23187-1776
> 757  220-7248 (phone)
> 757 220-7398  (fax)
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