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I really appreciate this statement, Bob. It's going on my wall.
Nic
On Feb 15, 2010, at 10:21 AM, bob wrote:

> Judgemental testing is not worth an educator's concern.  Assessments  
> are
> only worth-while when they inform instruction.
>
> Bob
>
>
> On 2/13/10 2:58 PM, "Ross, Faye" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> Hi Everyone -
>>
>> I have been asked about post-testing in a lower-level reading  
>> course at a
>> community college.  The course was eliminated, but several faculty  
>> think the
>> course is needed.  However, the administration has indicated they  
>> will not
>> restore the course unless COMPASS is used as a post-test to  
>> evaluate the
>> efficacy of the course.  I gather they are using COMPASS as a  
>> placement
>> mechanism.   They have heard the Nelson Denny might be a better  
>> instrument.
>>
>> They would prefer to use comprehensive reading assessment rather  
>> than ANY
>> standardized post-test, but they need to make a case for the course  
>> in a way
>> that will speak most effectively to the administration.
>>
>> The two questions they asked me to post:
>>
>> 1) What is the largest range in COMPASS reading scores that should  
>> seat
>> students in a single fourteen-week developmental reading course?  
>> (Would a
>> nearly forty-point range be fair to students and pedagogically  
>> viable?)
>>
>> 2) As a post-test for the lower of two levels of developmental  
>> reading, what
>> are the assets and liabilities of COMPASS and Nelson-Denny?
>>
>> I'll pass on any input you can offer.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Faye Ross
>>
>> Coordinator, Fundamentals of Reading
>> School of Liberal Arts
>> Philadelphia University
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