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I really appreciate this statement, Bob. It's going on my wall. Nic On Feb 15, 2010, at 10:21 AM, bob wrote: > Judgemental testing is not worth an educator's concern. Assessments > are > only worth-while when they inform instruction. > > Bob > > > On 2/13/10 2:58 PM, "Ross, Faye" <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> Hi Everyone - >> >> I have been asked about post-testing in a lower-level reading >> course at a >> community college. The course was eliminated, but several faculty >> think the >> course is needed. However, the administration has indicated they >> will not >> restore the course unless COMPASS is used as a post-test to >> evaluate the >> efficacy of the course. I gather they are using COMPASS as a >> placement >> mechanism. They have heard the Nelson Denny might be a better >> instrument. >> >> They would prefer to use comprehensive reading assessment rather >> than ANY >> standardized post-test, but they need to make a case for the course >> in a way >> that will speak most effectively to the administration. >> >> The two questions they asked me to post: >> >> 1) What is the largest range in COMPASS reading scores that should >> seat >> students in a single fourteen-week developmental reading course? >> (Would a >> nearly forty-point range be fair to students and pedagogically >> viable?) >> >> 2) As a post-test for the lower of two levels of developmental >> reading, what >> are the assets and liabilities of COMPASS and Nelson-Denny? >> >> I'll pass on any input you can offer. >> >> Thanks! >> >> Faye Ross >> >> Coordinator, Fundamentals of Reading >> School of Liberal Arts >> Philadelphia University >> [log in to unmask] >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> To access the LRNASST-L archives or User Guide, or to change your >> subscription options (including subscribe/unsubscribe), point your >> web browser >> to >> http://www.lists.ufl.edu/archives/lrnasst-l.html >> >> To contact the LRNASST-L owner, email [log in to unmask] > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > To access the LRNASST-L archives or User Guide, or to change your > subscription options (including subscribe/unsubscribe), point your > web browser to > http://www.lists.ufl.edu/archives/lrnasst-l.html > > To contact the LRNASST-L owner, email [log in to unmask] ____________________________________ Dominic (Nic) J. Voge [log in to unmask] (609)258-6921 Associate Director McGraw Center for Teaching and Learning 328C Frist Campus Center Princeton University Princeton, NJ 08544 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To access the LRNASST-L archives or User Guide, or to change your subscription options (including subscribe/unsubscribe), point your web browser to http://www.lists.ufl.edu/archives/lrnasst-l.html To contact the LRNASST-L owner, email [log in to unmask]