What has this listerv come to? Not in need of atheistic or theistic propaganda nor liberal and conservative bickering. Please write about things of interest to BEST. Also, Dav(w)id keep in mind that while your spiritual and political journey might be of interest to you and your friend(s) it is incredibly boring to anyone else. I suggest writing a book and burning it. That way you get it all out and no one else suffers. Chris On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 5:19 PM, David Craft <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > athiest priest, is that so? It seems to me that the truth is the earth is > round and hung upon nothing in the heavens. the Word, Living Word says > so,and so does all the facts. But people with a scientist degree told us > that the world was flat and you would fall off the edge of it if you wanted > to think out side their box. Almost every one believed the scientist > emprical truth, to include the religious leader that believed what the > scientist leaders said, so they cut off any debate if it did not agree with > them. A few boxless wonders finally looked at all the facts, after reading > the Truth of the Living Word (that said round ball-hung upon nothing) > and were willing to stand up and say, "you leaders do not have any clothes > on." They paid a heavy price, not like the little boy that proclaimed the > truth to the emprior. They were not alowed to leave their homes because > they used their newly made telescope to Freely seek the Truth that they had > read about in the Word of Elohim. One in Swedon was burned at the stake for > his stating the truth, by a scientic and religious King. For speaking the > truth is often hated. Clombus was not expected back, because he believed > that scripture. Oh and the queen who hoocked her jewels, knew, it was all > coming back to her the very next day when (the 9th of Av that year) they > took all the property and lands from all the Jews in Spain. To hate blinds > us from seeing. Nokemover, i do not hate you, but actually know you are > just as loved as i am by the Creator of the universe, who made this round > ball hung upon nothing. HE loves you, and has no problem with you > questioning HIM about HIS very existance. if HE can't take your hard > questions, then HE isn"t. i can assure you HE is. > > I do agree with you religion does not nor will it be able to explain > anything. Anything that one worships or places ahead of the 1st place > postion of the Creator and His SON who spoke it ALL in to being, is > religion. We often incorrectly think of it as 'church', but from a > scriptural point that is not so. Atheism is pure religion, for it is your > belief, and how you look at and preceive your world. In reality there is > only 4 religions in the world, #2 is .....You shall be like Elohim (God) > knowing good and evil. (one who makes oneself god). The next is you shall > be a god by your good works, with out a scrafice. (notice Cain) The next > ( #4)is via those two combined. But the first and only one (true > worship) is via your heart knowing, accepting, and humbling ones self that > you can't do it and HE has paid the price via HIS scrafice, HIS Blood. One > must then accept or reject that truth. > > I believe fully that if one ask for the truth of HIM one may find it. Our > rights, all blessing, and who we are, comes from HIM if we admit it or not. > > Is making and using of the scientific process of a thermo nuclear weapon to > be carried on with out a moral debate. As a man with a few years of looking > around, i have have learned nothing we do is in a vacuum. That includes > what we believe and bioenergy included. They are one with every thing > else. Putting ideas in boxes, only to be debated in that square, will leave > you with only the belief of falling off the edge if you leave the safety of > 'correct center'. Are You able to question what you believe in freedom, > knowing if what you find is not true, that by searching you can find it. > Years ago I truely ask YAHUAH ELOHIM for truth, and it has been quite a > jouney. The sad thing is i have found a wide broad road of people who want > to believe what they believe and realy do not care to learn the truth. When > declaring the truth, lonely ones stand and call out to the masses that they > are going in the wrong direction, and are often stoned by the religious > belief system for their troubles. > > i am willing to talk to you again, if you wish athiest priest. May HE make > HIMSELF real to you today, amen, and amen. shalom, dawid i. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Athiest Priest > To: [log in to unmask] > Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 1:47 PM > Subject: Thanks > Thanks to the telescope and the microscope religion no longer offers an > explanation of anything important.