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Yes I bounced it off Ed yesterday. He's leaning toward it being an herbicide problem but didn't have any direct evidence to base that opinion on. 

He suggested I touch base with Jason Smith. I'll look him up and get in touch with him.

Dave Palmer
Commercial Horticulture
Manatee County Extension
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Palmetto, FL 34221
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Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 8:07 AM
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Has Ed Gilman weighed in on this?

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From: South Central Green Team Discussion List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Palmer, Dave
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 4:08 PM
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Those are good ideas Jane.
But it's unlikely that several trees would suffer circling roots at the same time.
I didn't look at the roots below ground but no conks or anything unusual was showing above ground.

Dave Palmer
Commercial Horticulture
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Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 1:33 PM
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The cross section looks similar to palms with ganoderma.  Did you get a chance to look at the roots?  Wondering if they were circling as if still in the pot.  That would account for water stress even under irrigation.



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Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 11:44 AM
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Subject: Re: oak tree problem

I think they're laurels. But they're under irrigation

Dave Palmer
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Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 10:57 AM
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Have been seeing some of this too on live oaks; yours look like laurel oaks?

I don't think it is disease. I've been chalking most of it up to dry, dry, dry conditions and girdling roots. But the trees with the lower branches browning first is puzzling. MaNY OF THE BRANCHES HERE, WHICH HAD BROWNING, ALSO HAD GREEN BUDS OR CAMBIUM...(HATE THAT CAPS KEY!).....


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Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 9:29 AM
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Subject: oak tree problem

I have an oak tree problem that has me stumped.
At first glance it looks like a pesticide problem, but the evidence is muddy at best.

Images are at http://manatee.ifas.ufl.edu/tree1.htm
Clicking on an image will enlarge the image (these are large images).

Dave Palmer
Commercial Horticulture
Manatee County Extension
1303 17th Street West
Palmetto, FL 34221
941-722-4524 x 226
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