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Hi Frank, I'd like to get your opinion on whether there is "confusion" or disagreement about what these terms mean. Framing the issue as confusion assumes there is high consensus and divergence from it is in error, while disagreement suggests different approaches, commitments and ways of thinking about what we do. If I take the distinction between "remedial" and "developmental" as an analogy, I think it is possible that there is BOTH confusion and disagreement. Disagreement can signal the health--or at least typical development of a field--in a way that confusion probably does not. In any case, given the youth of these fields I think we should expect low consensus on a number of issues. Education, as a discipline more generally, is a low- consensus field, so it's not surprising that there are differing opinions about terminology both within and between DE and LA. Here is a nice little introduction to disciplinary theory with a good set of references which might be illuminating. Since so many of us work across disciplinary boundaries in both DE and LA, I think this is a worthwhile topic to explore. I've read some Biglan and Becher as well as Kuhn and Light and can recommend them all. Kolb is also represented in the references. http://www.answers.com/topic/academic-disciplines Best, Nic On Aug 7, 2011, at 4:22 PM, FLC wrote: > Hi. I agree with Diana. There is confusion as the term, "learning > assistance" is used. You may want to review the section in LSCHE that > contains descriptions of terms relevant to both learning assistance > and > developmental education, The URL is http://www.lsche.net/ > aboutLSCs.htm. If > you know of any other definitions that ought to be in this LSCHE > section, > please email me with the definition along with its source (this > attribution > is important). Collegially...... > > Frank L Christ, Emeritus CSU Long Beach > LSCHE Content Editor: www.lsche.net > "If knowledge is power, shared knowledge is infinitely more powerful" > Raymond Smith, President and Chief Executive Officer of Bell Atlantic. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Open Forum for Learning Assistance Professionals > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Diana Bell > Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 2:45 PM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: Doctoral Programs in Learning/Academic Support > > Hi all, > I find it interesting that the question about doctoral programs in > learning > assistance garnered feedback from development education programs, as > though > those two disciplines were the same. Learning assistance is very > different > than Developmental Education--DE is *part *of what learning assistant > professionals do, but only a part. I think it is problematic to > collapse the > two, for us, our administration, and, most importantly, for the > students. > AND, I would love to find a specialization in learning assistance. > If that > were the case, I might even go back for another doctoral degree! > Best, > Diana > > On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Hambrick, Doriss <[log in to unmask] >> wrote: > >> Oh, my goodness, Michelle. It's Texas State University - San Marcos >> - NOT >> The University of Texas-San Marcos. We get really touchy about >> that ;~) >> >> Doriss Hambrick >> Baylor University >> Paul L. Foster Success Center >> Sid Richardson Building, Office #036 >> Academic Support Programs >> One Bear Place #97072 >> 254-710-3828 (office) >> 254-710-3670 (fax) >> The Academically Successful Bear >> Office Hours MON - 1:30pm - 4:30pm / TUE - 1:30pm - 3:00pm / WED - >> 1:30pm > - >> 4:30pm / THU - 1:30pm - 3:00pm / FRI - 8:30am - 10:00am >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Open Forum for Learning Assistance Professionals [mailto: >> [log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of M Frenchie >> Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 4:16 PM >> To: [log in to unmask] >> Subject: Re: Doctoral Programs in Learning/Academic Support >> >> Marcy, >> >> I am currently a student in The Ed.D. program for developmental >> education. >> There are many classes that focus on academic support. I believe >> Univ. of >> Texas-San Marcos might be starting a program also. >> >> Michelle >> >> On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 10:52 AM, Marcia Vajner Marinelli <[log in to unmask] >>> wrote: >> >>> Hi all - >>> >>> I have a friend who is interested in doing what we all do and she >>> wanted to know whether there are any doctoral programs in academic >>> support. I know that many of us come from very diverse academic >>> backgrounds but I'm not familiar with any specific doctoral programs > that >> focus on academic support. >>> Does anyone on the list know of any such program? >>> >>> As always, thanks for the information! >>> >>> Marcy >>> >>> >>> >>> Marcy Marinelli, Ph.D., NCC >>> Assistant Director - University of Maryland Counseling Center >>> Learning >>> Assistance Service Affiliate Assistant Professor - Department of >>> Counseling & Personnel Services 2202A Shoemaker Bldg. >>> University of Maryland >>> College Park, MD 20742 >>> 301-314-7680 >>> 301-314-9206 (fax) >>> >>> www.counseling.umd.edu/LAS >>> >>> Did you know -- You can now schedule appointments online with LAS! >>> Visit https://lasonline.umd.edu<https://lasonline.umd.edu/> >>> >>> >>> ********************************************************************** >>> *********************************** >>> Disclaimer: This message is intended for the use of the addressee >>> and >>> may contain information that is privileged and confidential and >>> may be >>> subject to confidentiality privileges and protections. 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