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What an amazing plan! Thanks so much, Diana, for agreeing to take this on. And thanks to Linda for suggesting it! NOW REALLY back to the salt mines! :-) Saundra Saundra McGuire, Ph.D. Assistant Vice Chancellor for Learning, Teaching, and Retention Professor, Department of Chemistry 135A T Boyd Hall Louisiana State University Baton Rouge, LA 70803 225.578.6749 phone Saundra Y. McGuire, Ph.D. [log in to unmask] -----Original Message----- From: Open Forum for Learning Assistance Professionals [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Diana Bell Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 12:32 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: A book on this is a GREAT idea! I would absolutely do that! And, it would be fun. I will work on a proposal in the next couple of months--I have to finish the Fall JCRL, finish revising an article that will come out in the Learning Assistance Review, and propose a book on Play and Creativity in the Learning Center, then--I could work on this project. Diana On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 12:28 PM, Saundra Y McGuire <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > What a great idea! This would be perfect for a focus of an issue of > New Directions for Teaching and Learning. Multiple authors could contribute. > The current issue is on Self-Regulated Learning! > > > > I can see it now. Diana Bell will be the editor, and several of us > could write chapters... > > > > New Directions for Teaching and Learning > > Copyright © 2011 Wiley Periodicals, Inc., A Wiley Company > > > > Special Issue: Self-Regulated Learning > > Summer 2011 > > Volume 2011, Issue 126 > > Pages 1-124 > > Issue edited by: Héfer Bembenutty > > > > > > > > > > Saundra McGuire, Ph.D. > > Assistant Vice Chancellor for Learning, Teaching, and Retention > > Professor, Department of Chemistry > > 135A T Boyd Hall > > Louisiana State University > > Baton Rouge, LA 70803 > > 225.578.6749 phone > > Saundra Y. McGuire, Ph.D. > > [log in to unmask] > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Open Forum for Learning Assistance Professionals [mailto: > [log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Mayfield, Linda > Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 12:13 PM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: Doctoral Programs in Learning/Academic Support > > > > Saundra, > > I think you SHOULD write that book!!! Learning assistance > professionals all over the country would be sharing it with their > deans, faculty, and administrators! > > Linda > > > > Linda Riggs Mayfield, Ed.D., Associate Faculty Blessing-Rieman College > of Nursing Broadway @ 11th Street, Box 7005 Quincy, IL 62305-7005 > > 217-228-5520 x 6997 > > [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> > > > > > > ________________________________________ > > From: Open Forum for Learning Assistance Professionals [ > [log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Saundra Y McGuire > [[log in to unmask]] > > Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 11:40 AM > > To: [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> > > Subject: Re: Doctoral Programs in Learning/Academic Support > > > > Thanks so much for clarifying this, Diana. I don't think anyone in > the learning center community is trying to marginalize DE (certainly > not the folks who contribute to this listserv), but the reality is > that a huge number of institutions (and not just in the Ivy League) > want to avoid > > any association with DE. In fact, the prevailing view of DE in many > > places is somewhat similar to the idea that many faculty have about > learning centers -- the programs/courses exist for students who should > never have been admitted to the institution in the first place. (I > could write a book on my discussions with faculty about THIS > > misconception!) > > > > > > > > I think the real challenge for us in the LC community is to make sure > that everyone understands the holistic definition of DE as promoting > "the cognitive and affective growth of all postsecondary learners, at > all levels of the learning continuum". This is certainly not how DE > is viewed in the larger academic community. So I guess we should > figure out how to get this view more widely embraced. > > > > > > > > Back to the salt mines of report writing (UGH!) Saundra > > > > > > > > > > > > Saundra McGuire, Ph.D. > > > > Assistant Vice Chancellor for Learning, Teaching, and Retention > > > > Professor, Department of Chemistry > > > > 135A T Boyd Hall > > > > Louisiana State University > > > > Baton Rouge, LA 70803 > > > > 225.578.6749 phone > > > > Saundra Y. McGuire, Ph.D. > > > > [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Open Forum for Learning Assistance Professionals [mailto: > [log in to unmask]] <mailto:[mailto:[log in to unmask]]> On > Behalf Of Diana Bell > > Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 10:33 AM > > To: [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> > > Subject: Re: Doctoral Programs in Learning/Academic Support > > > > > > > > Eric and others--Oh No--please don't feel as if I'm marginalizing > DE--quite the contrary; it is a significant and important field of > study. AND, the programs I've looked at do address important learning > center issues such as learning styles, multiple intelligences, etc. I > just wanted to emphasize that DE is only part of learning center > pedagogy and that instead of enrolling in a program that a student > would have to "make fit," it would be nice to have a program that > specifically addresses all of the issues in learning center pedagogy and administration. > > > > > > > > As for learning center theory--like writing center theory, I would > expect that practitioners use theories of pedagogy. I use, for > example, Lev Vygotski (zone of proximal development, sociocultural > education, scaffolding, cognitive development); Bell Hooks (critical > pedagogy, feminism, marginalization); Paulo Freire (critical pedagogy, > informal education, banking model of education); Mina Shaughnessy > (critical pedagogy, student-centered learning), Mike Rose (critical > pedagogy, cognition, student-centered learning); and Mihaly > Czikzentmihaly (Flow theory, creativity, psychology of discovery and invention) just to name a few. > > > > > > > > Have a great day everyone! > > > > Diana > > > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 9:34 AM, Mayfield, Linda <[log in to unmask]<mailto: > [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask] > 20%3cmailto:[log in to unmask]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > I completely agree with Eric and Pat, and have long been a > > > > > practitioner of the NADE definition Eric quoted. Mine is not an > > > > > open-enrollment school and our applicants are required to meet > > > > > academic criteria in several areas before being accepted, but many > > > > > still benefit from the continuum approach. A doctorate in a related > > > > > field in which one can focus one's research on the area of greatest > > > > > interest--DE, learning support, academic support services, ADA, > > > > > assessment, etc.--is excellent support and experience for continuing > > > > > work in the field of specialization, regardless of the name of the > > > > > degree. I think finding a degree program with the most opportunities > > to do that is more valuable than finding a program with a specific title. > > > > > Linda > > > > > > > > > > Linda Riggs Mayfield, Ed.D., Associate Faculty Blessing-Rieman > > College > > > > > > > of Nursing Broadway @ 11th Street, Box 7005 Quincy, IL 62305-7005 > > > > > 217-228-5520 x 6997 > > > > > [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> <mailto: > [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________ > > > > > From: Open Forum for Learning Assistance Professionals [ > > > > > [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> <mailto: > [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> > ] On Behalf > > Of Eric Paulson [ > > > > > [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> <mailto: > [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> > ] > > > > > Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 8:55 AM > > > > > To: [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> <mailto: > [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> > > > > > > Subject: Re: Doctoral Programs in Learning/Academic Support > > > > > > > > > > This is an interesting discussion and thinking about the > > relationships > > > > > > > among and between all these areas is useful; my concern at this > > point > > > > > is that during this discussion we don't marginalize developmental > > > > > education as a field (or more importantly, the students it serves). > > > > > DE is increasing in its visibility and in the attention paid to it > > as > > > > > a field--new graduate programs, new federal and state > > research-funding > > > > > > > initiatives, work by Columbia University's CCRC focused on DE, and > > so > > > > > on. And this focus on DE includes qualitative and quantitative > > > > > research leading to theory-building as well as data-driven evidence > > > > > for appropriate practices; these are signs of a rapidly expanding > > field, not a contracting field. > > > > > > > > > > I think it's worthwhile remembering that many of us view > > developmental > > > > > > > education broadly and holistically, not narrowly; NADE's > > perspective, > > > > > for example is that developmental education "promotes the cognitive > > > > > and affective growth of all postsecondary learners, at all levels of > > > > > the learning continuum" (http://www.nade.net/AboutDevEd.html < > http://www.nade.net/AboutDevEd.html> > > <http://www.nade.net/AboutDevEd.html > <http://www.nade.net/AboutDevEd.html> > > ). At any > > > > > rate, I think the point folks were making when they responded with > > > > > info about Texas State's new program was that one of our three > > > > > concentrations is Learning Support. It seemed to be related to the > > > > > question about specializations in doctoral programs that was posed > > earlier. > > > > > Eric Paulson > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 09:18:41 -0400 > > > > > > From: [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> > <mailto:[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Doctoral Programs in Learning/Academic Support > > > > > > To: [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> <mailto: > [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> > > > > > > > > > > > > > OK, this response might also be interesting, b/cause she talks > > > about > > > > > > > > what your goals might be (something we're always saying to our > > > > > > students) and that a doctorate in DE might be too restrictive. > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: Open Forum for Learning Assistance Professionals > > > > > > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] <mailto:[mailto: > [log in to unmask]]> > > <mailto:[mailto:[log in to unmask]] <mailto:[mailto: > [log in to unmask]]> > On Behalf Of Maher, Patricia > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 8:54 AM > > > > > > To: [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> <mailto: > [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Doctoral Programs in Learning/Academic Support > > > > > > > > > > > > I will weigh in here to follow several others. Before you select a > > > > > > doctoral program be sure to think about how you might be able to > > "apply" > > > > > > that degree. Some degrees can limit you in your search for > > positions. > > > > > > It's a big commitment and you want to gain the most from it. That > > > > > > said, if DE is your goal and you only ever envision yourself in > > > DE, > > > > > > that's fine. > > > > > > My degree is in Adult Education, where I studied many areas > > > related > > > > > > to academic support (including of course adult development and > > > > > > literacy) and where I was able to focus my research on any adult > > > > > > population I was interested in, including college learning support. > > > > > > This degree lead easily into college learning support. I also have > > > a > > > > > > > > staff member with a counseling background who is in the Higher > > > > > > Education Administration doctoral program at our university. Any > > > of > > > > > > these fields of study can lead to learning assistance or other > > > areas > > > > > > > > of Higher Ed, and in my case even other areas outside of Higher Ed. > > > > > > Our career center counsels students to first think about what they > > > > > > envision as their working world and then investigate the degree > > > > > > fields that might lead them there. We also have a College Student > > > > > > Affairs masters program and I hire many of them as adjuncts once > > > > > > they are finished. It is in our College of Education and they take > > > > > > curriculum courses in their program and spend their 2 years in > > > > > > on-campus GA position. So that is yet another field that can lead > > here. > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > > > > > > > > > Pat > > > > > > > > > > > > Patricia A. Maher, Ph. D. > > > > > > Director, Tutoring and Learning Services University of South > > > Florida > > > > > > 4202 E. Fowler Ave. > > > > > > Tampa, FL 33620 > > > > > > LIB 206 > > > > > > (813)974-5141 > > > > > > [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> <mailto:[log in to unmask]<mailto: > [log in to unmask]> > > > <mailto:[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask] <mailto: > [log in to unmask]:[log in to unmask]> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <mailto:[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask] <mailto: > [log in to unmask]:[log in to unmask]> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 8/2/11 8:06 PM, "M Frenchie" <[log in to unmask] > > <mailto:[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > >Sorry about that. I just wrote it off the top of my head and > > > >didn't > > > > > > > > >research it... > > > > > > > > > > > > > >On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 5:21 PM, Hambrick, Doriss > > > > > > ><[log in to unmask] > > > > > > >> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Oh, my goodness, Michelle. It's Texas State University - San > > > > > > >>Marcos - NOT The University of Texas-San Marcos. We get really > > > > > > >>touchy about that > > > > > > ;~) > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Doriss Hambrick > > > > > > >> Baylor University > > > > > > >> Paul L. Foster Success Center > > > > > > >> Sid Richardson Building, Office #036 Academic Support Programs > > > > > > >>One Bear Place #97072 > > > > > > >> 254-710-3828 (office) > > > > > > >> 254-710-3670 (fax) > > > > > > >> The Academically Successful Bear > > > > > > >> Office Hours MON - 1:30pm - 4:30pm / TUE - 1:30pm - 3:00pm / > > > >> WED > > > > > > >>- 1:30pm - 4:30pm / THU - 1:30pm - 3:00pm / FRI - 8:30am - > > > > > > >>10:00am > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > > > > > >> From: Open Forum for Learning Assistance Professionals [mailto: > > > > > > >> [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> <mailto: > [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> > ] On > > Behalf Of M Frenchie > > > > > > >> Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 4:16 PM > > > > > > >> To: [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> > <mailto:[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> > > > > > > > >> Subject: Re: Doctoral Programs in Learning/Academic Support > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Marcy, > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> I am currently a student in The Ed.D. program for developmental > > > > > > >>education. > > > > > > >> There are many classes that focus on academic support. I > > > >> believe > > > > > > Univ. > > > > > > >>of > > > > > > >> Texas-San Marcos might be starting a program also. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Michelle > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 10:52 AM, Marcia Vajner Marinelli > > > > > > <[log in to unmask] > > > > > > >> >wrote: > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > Hi all - > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > I have a friend who is interested in doing what we all do and > > > > > > >> > she wanted to know whether there are any doctoral programs in > > > > > > >> > academic support. I know that many of us come from very > > > >> > diverse > > > > > > > > >> > academic backgrounds but I'm not familiar with any specific > > > > > > >> > doctoral > > > > > > programs > > > > > > >>that > > > > > > >> focus on academic support. > > > > > > >> > Does anyone on the list know of any such program? > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > As always, thanks for the information! > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > Marcy > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > Marcy Marinelli, Ph.D., NCC > > > > > > >> > Assistant Director - University of Maryland Counseling Center > > > > > > Learning > > > > > > >> > Assistance Service Affiliate Assistant Professor - Department > > > > > > >> > of Counseling & Personnel Services 2202A Shoemaker Bldg. > > > > > > >> > University of Maryland > > > > > > >> > College Park, MD 20742 > > > > > > >> > 301-314-7680 > > > > > > >> > 301-314-9206 (fax) > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > www.counseling.umd.edu/LAS > > > >> > <http://www.counseling.umd.edu/LAS> < > http://www.counseling.umd.edu/LAS <http://www.counseling.umd.edu/LAS> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > Did you know -- You can now schedule appointments online with > > LAS! > > > > > > >> > Visit https://lasonline.umd.edu<https://lasonline.umd.edu/ < > https://lasonline.umd.edu%3chttps:/lasonline.umd.edu/> > > <https://lasonline.umd.edu%3chttps:/lasonline.umd.edu/ < > https://lasonline.umd.edu%3chttps:/lasonline.umd.edu/> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > ****************************************************************** > > > ** > > > > > > ** > > > > > > >> > *********************************** > > > > > > >> > Disclaimer: This message is intended for the use of the > > > > > > >> > addressee > > > > > > and > > > > > > >> > may contain information that is privileged and confidential > > > >> > and > > > > > > > > >> > may > > > > > > be > > > > > > >> > subject to confidentiality privileges and protections. 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