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Thanks, Michelle.  I am certainly convinced that the courses are quite valuable (you're preaching to the choir here), but it's just that a degree in developmental education would not make one competitive for a position at many Ivy League institutions or professional schools.  I know the courses are applicable at all levels, but it's the "developmental" in the title that is problematic in some circles.

In fact, unfortunately, some places go to great lengths to make sure that no developmental courses are offered by the institution.  I don't agree with this attitude, but unfortunately it prevails.

Best,
Saundra


Saundra McGuire, Ph.D. 
Assistant Vice Chancellor for Learning, Teaching, and Retention
Professor, Department of Chemistry
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Louisiana State University
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Saundra Y. McGuire, Ph.D.
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Subject: Re: Doctoral Programs in Learning/Academic Support

Saundra,

Although the degree from Grambling is in Developmental Education, many of the courses discuss learning assistance and higher education administration.
I have read many articles written by authors that others have mentioned. If I were not in the classes, I probably would not be researching and learning about the field. I have attached the classes that are required by the program in case anyone is interested.

Michelle Gerdes
Academic Affairs Specialist and Instructor USMA



On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 2:29 PM, Diana Bell <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Saundra,
> I, too, hope there is a program out there. I would seriously go for a 
> second doctorate if I could find such a program.
> Thanks (and always good to see you on here!). You were my very first 
> mentor!
> Best,
> Diana
>
> On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 1:23 PM, Saundra Y McGuire <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> > Diana is right on target here.  I too noticed that the doctoral 
> > programs were within Developmental Education. I think that 
> > developmental education
> is
> > great, but there are now many learning assistance professionals who 
> > work
> in
> > graduate and professional schools.    A degree in Developmental Education
> > would not be helpful for them, whereas a degree in learning 
> > assistance would.
> >
> > Hoping that there's an existing degree in learning assistance, or 
> > one on the drawing board somewhere, Saundra
> >
> >
> > Saundra McGuire, Ph.D.
> > Assistant Vice Chancellor for Learning, Teaching, and Retention 
> > Professor, Department of Chemistry 135A T Boyd Hall Louisiana State 
> > University Baton Rouge, LA 70803
> > 225.578.6749 phone
> > Saundra Y. McGuire, Ph.D.
> > [log in to unmask]
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Open Forum for Learning Assistance Professionals [mailto:
> > [log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Diana Bell
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 4:45 PM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: Doctoral Programs in Learning/Academic Support
> >
> > Hi all,
> > I find it interesting that the question about doctoral programs in
> learning
> > assistance garnered feedback from development education programs, as
> though
> > those two disciplines were the same.  Learning assistance is very
> different
> > than Developmental Education--DE is *part *of what learning 
> > assistant professionals do, but only a part. I think it is 
> > problematic to collapse
> the
> > two, for us, our administration, and, most importantly, for the students.
> > AND, I would love to find a specialization in learning assistance. 
> > If
> that
> > were the case, I might even go back for another doctoral degree!
> > Best,
> > Diana
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Hambrick, Doriss < 
> > [log in to unmask]
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > Oh, my goodness, Michelle. It's Texas State University - San 
> > > Marcos - NOT The University of Texas-San Marcos. We get really 
> > > touchy about that  ;~)
> > >
> > > Doriss Hambrick
> > > Baylor University
> > > Paul L. Foster Success Center
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> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Open Forum for Learning Assistance Professionals [mailto:
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> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 4:16 PM
> > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > Subject: Re: Doctoral Programs in Learning/Academic Support
> > >
> > > Marcy,
> > >
> > > I am currently a student in The Ed.D. program for developmental
> > education.
> > > There are many classes that focus on academic support. I believe Univ.
> > > of Texas-San Marcos might be starting a program also.
> > >
> > > Michelle
> > >
> > > On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 10:52 AM, Marcia Vajner Marinelli 
> > > <[log in to unmask]
> > > >wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi all -
> > > >
> > > > I have a friend who is interested in doing what we all do and 
> > > > she wanted to know whether there are any doctoral programs in 
> > > > academic support.  I know that many of us come from very diverse 
> > > > academic backgrounds but I'm not familiar with any specific 
> > > > doctoral programs that
> > > focus on academic support.
> > > >  Does anyone on the list know of any such program?
> > > >
> > > > As always, thanks for the information!
> > > >
> > > > Marcy
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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