Marcy, you mentioned that you "taught myself all that I needed to learn about academic support and managing a program". Do you mind sharing what resources/professional organizations you used to do that. Thanks Maggie Johnson Coordinator, Supplemental Instruction Program El Centro College (214) 860-2243 [log in to unmask] >>> Marcia Vajner Marinelli <[log in to unmask]> 8/3/2011 8:00 AM >>> Thanks to all who have responded with their thoughts and suggestions. I agree with Diana and Lisa as well. My background is in counseling. As a counselor I had a lot of great experiences and training that were valuable for learning/academic support. When I got the job as director of our learning assistance service, I taught myself all that I needed to learn about academic support and managing a program. I don't know that I would have gone back and gotten another degree, though. There are enough great resources and professional organizations out there and if you are willing to put in the time to learn I believe that you can be a very skilled learning assistance professional. When I'm hiring people I look for a background in the helping professions - education, counseling, college student personnel, or higher education. But what is equally important is their approach to working with students and their understanding of the challenges that students face in being effective college learners. I was thinking about all these comments driving in to work today and wondered what knowledge, skills and attitudes people seek in learning/academic support professionals. I think my friend, who was the impetus for this request and who already has a counseling degree, could very easily transition into the learning/academic support field (she's been working with a TRIO program). As always, I appreciate the collegiality and thoughtfulness of people on this list! Marcy Marcy Marinelli, Ph.D., NCC Assistant Director - University of Maryland Counseling Center Learning Assistance Service Affiliate Assistant Professor - Department of Counseling & Personnel Services 2202A Shoemaker Bldg. University of Maryland College Park, MD 20742 301-314-7680 301-314-9206 (fax) www.counseling.umd.edu/LAS Did you know -- You can now schedule appointments online with LAS! Visit https://lasonline.umd.edu ********************************************************************************************************* Disclaimer: This message is intended for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential and may be subject to confidentiality privileges and protections. If you are not the intended addressee, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any other dissemination of this message or any attachment is strictly prohibited. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. ********************************************************************************************************* -----Original Message----- From: Open Forum for Learning Assistance Professionals [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Lisa D'Adamo-Weinstein Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 8:51 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Doctoral Programs in Learning/Academic Support I have to strongly agree with Diana. The automatic lumping together of DE and Learning Assistance has bothered me for years. In fact, at two institutions where I worked in the past, we did not have DE programs linked to any kind of learning assistance programs. The DE programs were either a separate department and some of their students made it my way or there simply was not any DE available at all. While DE and LA have strong linkages, they are not the same fields. My doctorate is from Indiana University- Bloomington in Language Education (now the Department of Literacy, Culture, and Language Education). The name of the department was problematic because everyone assumes that I studied languages/teaching languages. I didn't focus on language learning/teaching (although I did get TESOL certification). I was able to make my degree work for me so that I took higher ed admin classes, adult learning and development, and other course work that allowed me to focus my doctoral research on first-generation minority women's narratives about their college experiences and developed a framework for success in their college careers. My point, there are many doctoral programs out there that can be adapted to fit your needs, but like Diana, let's not always get DE and LA lumped together. There are many places like IU ( http://education.indiana.edu/Default.aspx?alias=education.indiana.edu/langed ) and National Louis (http://nlu.nl.edu/graduate/doctoral.cfm) that allow for a learning assistance focus. I would check out the programs and universities that supported the learning assistance focused dissertations listed on the LSCHE: Dissertations & Theses page ( http://www.crla.net/lsche/resources/dissertation.htm) as a source for possible programs. Lisa ___________________________________________ Lisa D'Adamo-Weinstein, Ph.D. Director of Academic Support SUNY Empire State College - Northeast Center 21 British American Boulevard Latham, NY 12110 tel. (518) 783-6203 Ext. 5939 fax. (518) 783-6443 http://necacademicsupport.pbworks.com www.esc.edu/northeast [log in to unmask] From: Diana Bell <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Date: 08/02/2011 05:47 PM Subject: Re: Doctoral Programs in Learning/Academic Support Sent by: Open Forum for Learning Assistance Professionals <[log in to unmask]> Hi all, I find it interesting that the question about doctoral programs in learning assistance garnered feedback from development education programs, as though those two disciplines were the same. Learning assistance is very different than Developmental Education--DE is *part *of what learning assistant professionals do, but only a part. I think it is problematic to collapse the two, for us, our administration, and, most importantly, for the students. AND, I would love to find a specialization in learning assistance. If that were the case, I might even go back for another doctoral degree! Best, Diana On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Hambrick, Doriss <[log in to unmask] > wrote: > Oh, my goodness, Michelle. It's Texas State University - San Marcos - NOT > The University of Texas-San Marcos. We get really touchy about that ;~) > > Doriss Hambrick > Baylor University > Paul L. Foster Success Center > Sid Richardson Building, Office #036 > Academic Support Programs > One Bear Place #97072 > 254-710-3828 (office) > 254-710-3670 (fax) > The Academically Successful Bear > Office Hours MON - 1:30pm - 4:30pm / TUE - 1:30pm - 3:00pm / WED - 1:30pm - > 4:30pm / THU - 1:30pm - 3:00pm / FRI - 8:30am - 10:00am > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Open Forum for Learning Assistance Professionals [mailto: > [log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of M Frenchie > Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 4:16 PM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: Doctoral Programs in Learning/Academic Support > > Marcy, > > I am currently a student in The Ed.D. program for developmental education. > There are many classes that focus on academic support. I believe Univ. of > Texas-San Marcos might be starting a program also. > > Michelle > > On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 10:52 AM, Marcia Vajner Marinelli <[log in to unmask] > >wrote: > > > Hi all - > > > > I have a friend who is interested in doing what we all do and she > > wanted to know whether there are any doctoral programs in academic > > support. I know that many of us come from very diverse academic > > backgrounds but I'm not familiar with any specific doctoral programs that > focus on academic support. > > Does anyone on the list know of any such program? > > > > As always, thanks for the information! > > > > Marcy > > > > > > > > Marcy Marinelli, Ph.D., NCC > > Assistant Director - University of Maryland Counseling Center Learning > > Assistance Service Affiliate Assistant Professor - Department of > > Counseling & Personnel Services 2202A Shoemaker Bldg. > > University of Maryland > > College Park, MD 20742 > > 301-314-7680 > > 301-314-9206 (fax) > > > > www.counseling.umd.edu/LAS > > > > Did you know -- You can now schedule appointments online with LAS! > > Visit https://lasonline.umd.edu<https://lasonline.umd.edu/> > > > > > > ********************************************************************** > > *********************************** > > Disclaimer: This message is intended for the use of the addressee and > > may contain information that is privileged and confidential and may be > > subject to confidentiality privileges and protections. 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